Template talk:US enlisted ranks

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Military history WikiProject
	This template is within the scope of the Military history WikiProject. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see lists of open tasks and regional and topical task forces. To use this banner, please see the full instructions.
TMP	Templates do not require a rating on the quality scale.

[edit] Sergeant Major of the Marine Corps

Standardized abbreviations in the Marine Corps are codified by a Marine Corps Order (MCO). An MCO carries the authority of the Commandant of the Marine Corps (CMC). The CMC is the ultimate authority on policy within the Marine Corps.

The applicable MCO for this info box is MCO P1070-12K, the Individual Records Administration Manual (short title: IRAM). It can be found here[[1]]. It contains the specific listing for the correct abbreviation for Sergeant Major of the Marine Corps on page 6-36.

I trust that this is now a dead issue and that the standardized Marine Corps abbreviation, established by the Commandant of the Marine Corps, published in a Marine Corps Order, for the abbreviation for the title of Sergeant Major of the Marine Corps will be left alone. Windyjarhead (talk) 18:24, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Command Master Chief Petty Officer abbreviation

According to many major sources around the web, including USCG.mil, defenselink, airman.af.mil and many many others, the official abbreviation of Command Master Chief Petty Officer is CMC, not CMCPO. It is stated as this here at wikipedia in the command master chief petty officer page, the United States Coast Guard page, and the United States Coast Guard enlisted rate insignia page.--Officer781 (talk) 05:04, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Here are the important sources for the CMC and SgtMajMC abbreviations:

• CMC:
  • http://www.airman.af.mil/military/military_4d.htm
  • http://www.uscg.mil/ccs/cmc/general.asp
  • http://www.uscg.mil/comdt/mcpocg/cmcHistory/default.asp
• SgtMajMC:
  • http://www.gruntsmilitary.com/rank12.shtml
  • http://www.defenselink.mil/specials/insignias/enlisted.html
  • http://www.airman.af.mil/military/military_4c.htm

I'm thinking that SgtMajMC might be another official abbreviation, or at least one that they use for information given to the public.--Officer781 (talk) 08:40, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

As I stated above, standardized abbreviations in the Marine Corps are codified by a Marine Corps Order (MCO). Not by gruntsmilitary.com (a commercial website) nor by an Air Force website (which, by the way, displays an outdated insignia for the US Army rank of CW5.) The page at defenselink.mil is clearly outdated, it says that the US Coast Guard "is a part of the Department of Transportation in peacetime and the Navy in times of war." The Coast Guard has operated under the Department of Homeland Security since 2002.

Unlike these unreliable internet sources, an MCO carries the authority of the Commandant of the Marine Corps (CMC). The CMC is the ultimate authority on policy within the Marine Corps. I cannot stress enough the absolute and final nature of the authority contained in an MCO. It is quite literally "the letter of the law" within the Marine Corps. There is no room for interpretation here.

The applicable MCO for this info box is MCO P1070-12K, the Individual Records Administration Manual (short title: IRAM). It can be found here[[2]]. It contains the specific listing for the correct abbreviation for Sergeant Major of the Marine Corps on page 6-36.Windyjarhead (talk) 19:04, 9 October 2008 (UTC)