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If I do not reply to you immediately, it is not because I am ignoring you; I might be in the middle of a project on or offline :)
If you're thinking about retiring, *please* talk to me first either here, IRC or email.
Lastly, a note to banned users who stop by: Stop editing immediately, serve your sentence, and then come back and play nice. I will gladly welcome you back and collaborate with you - once you've served your time properly, and as long as you act accordingly.

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[edit] my old account

hi,
I don't plan on revealing my old account to anyone so there probably is no way for me to prove it. I was thinking of showing off my knowledge of Wikipedia that newbies wouldn't know, but probably not adequate. I have decided to wait to become an established user with this account but thanks a lot for the message. Pzrmd (talk) 23:23, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Oh well the nomination was withdrawn like three hours after your message. Pzrmd (talk) 23:26, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] You have an e-mail

Cheers, –Juliancolton | Talk 00:46, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Caliphruria

Thank you for your message!. --EnCASF (talk) 15:35, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the kind words! --Skizziktalk 22:07, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Birds June newsletter

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  • Newsletter delivery by xenobot 13:53, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Usurpation

Thanks for the usurpation! =) Antivenin 19:38, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Why this? Antivenin 20:27, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

I'd like to be able to prevent retirements, if possible. Kingturtle (talk) 11:10, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Rename

hi Admin, please help me to change username from user:gzhaouser:georgezhao. thanks. Gzhao (talk) 21:39, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Please make your request at WP:CHU. Cheers, Kingturtle (talk) 04:47, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the usurpation! i saw you said 'everything is in order 12 june', it is 12 june, but the account does not changed. thank you for your time. Gzhao (talk) 03:34, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Aung San Suu Kyi

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[edit] Talkback

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[edit] School addresses

Did you get consensus for this change anywhere? Because as long as its in the infobox, I think _that's_ the place to start a deletion run.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 18:39, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

I have left messages in talk pages of infoboxes and received zero response either way. So I am taking bold action. Phone numbers, fax numbers and email addresses are definitely not encyclopedic in these cases. Street addresses aren't either. Kingturtle (talk) 18:42, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
O RLY? --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 18:43, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
Hmmm...I know I posted it somewhere. It may take me a little while to dig it up. Kingturtle (talk) 18:51, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] David Fuchs

It is exactly that sort of attitude towards meby David Fuchs in completely unrelated discussions/situations that I hate this site at times. It makes me feel unwelcome. What was the need of David Fuchs to even mention me let alone humiliate me in front of people as an example of temperament? I didn't ask for my comment to be withdrawn. I asked for David Fuchs himself to withdraw his own comment with reference to myself which is completely not true and irrelevant to somebody elses RFA. Now we have an RFA in front of hundreds of users and a pure reason to oppose because the candidate is described by Fuchs as being like me. Dr. Blofeld White cat 18:46, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

I think it would be better just to have it removed, and to deal with this away from the RfA. Kingturtle (talk) 18:49, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
Otherwise it just turns into a game. Someone else's RfA should not be the venue for such a stand off. Kingturtle (talk) 18:53, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

I agree. But it was completely unnecessary of him to make such a comment so the request for him to withdraw his mention of myself in a derogatory way still stands. Dr. Blofeld White cat 18:54, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes. It was definitely inappropriate. That is why it should be removed now, and not wait to see if he removes it. This matter can be settled elsewhere. May I remove it? Kingturtle (talk) 18:55, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

If you remove his mention of me as his justification of why this sort of candidate should not become an adminstrator then by all means remove my comment as well. It is not fair on the candidate to bring up this subject at his RFC. He knows nothing about how I'm feeling and barely knows me to make such statements and if he honestly thinks a brief FAC was the only reason why I seriously considered leaving this site he is sorely mistaken. It is this kind of attitude I encounter towards me at evne the most unlikely scenarios that makes this a sometimes very unpleasant experience. Phew I'm trying to control just how annoyed it makes me to come across snide comments like that. Back to encyclopedia me thinks! Dr. Blofeld White cat 18:54, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

I have removed the comment and your request to remove the comment. I have also left a message on his talk page about the matter, and asked him to bring the issue to my talk page if he feels it needs to be discussed. Kingturtle (talk) 19:06, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

OK thanks. How are you anyway? Any particular articles you are working on at present? Dr. Blofeld White cat 19:10, 9 June 2009 (UTC) Have sent an email. Glad to see you also edit Uncyclopedia! Dr. Blofeld White cat 21:18, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] WP:AN/I

I just brought this up on WP/ANI. So far, WKnight supports you, and nobody's chimed in on my side yet.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 19:06, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Re: RfA objections

I will use whatever examples I wish if I feel it demonstrates my point. Blofeld's own actions, ironically, prove my point better than I could expect. --Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 19:45, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Nothing worse than the way you grossly mistreat people on here to make your point on a daily basis. How do I remain patient with people like this? Dr. Blofeld White cat 19:47, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

You don't. You mangle their pages and complain IN CAPS at all venues. Rather than bring the issue to my talk YOU COMPLAINED ABOUT HOW THIS WAS AN OUTRAGE on the RfA itself. The only person I am evidently mistreating here is you; I'm not sure why you feel so victimized, but it appears it's not just my problem. If you have a personal issue with me, bring it to my attention via my talk or email. Don't shadowbox. And that's all I have to say; I'm not going to waste Sir King's talk page space any further. --Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 19:55, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

I rarely talk in capital letters. What are you talking about? I only speak in capital letters when I get annoyed with somebody. I did bring it to your talk page and and you removed my message and would persist in doing so however much I tried to speak to you. Most of my messages to other editors on here are positive ones. I only react when somebody makes some snide remark pointlessly in a completely irrelevant siutation. Again you keep making judgements about me on something you know little about. Vast majority of my time on here is spent working on the eneyclopedia and enjoying discussions with a few editors that make this site half decent. You may not "mistreat" editors but are excessivelly criticial of your fellow editors and articles and this is shown by the way you spend most of your time on here opposing promotion candidates at both FAC and RFA. When challenged you come off looking like a pompous, arrogant prehistoric dinosaur who is too stubborn to see how other people might view things. "I will use whatever examples I wish if I feel it demonstrates my point.." just shows just how stubborn you are. Dr. Blofeld White cat 20:29, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

David, you will *not* use whatever examples you wish. RfAs are to evaluate the candidate at hand, not to make nettlesome commentary about a different editor. Kingturtle (talk) 20:39, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
And editor asked for an elaboration of an oppose, and I gave it, including a comparison that I felt was germane. I do not think you or anyone else have the right to be final arbiter over what is said. If Blofeld or another editor came to my talk page first, I would have removed it, but as it was you mangled my comments with little provocation. --Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 02:16, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
I am a bureaucrat. Bureaucrats are the final arbiters. Kingturtle (talk) 02:18, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
B'crat is a technical position; you judge consensus, but nowhere does it say you are allowed to remove comments at will. --Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 02:20, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] why remove all the contact information

That is a major thing you are doing, why? SaltyBoatr (talk) 14:21, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

I am removing any fax number, phone number and contact email I can find, as they are not encyclopedic. Also, when I encounter other contact information that is there for sales or promotional reasons, I am removing that too. Kingturtle (talk) 14:25, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
Is your judgment as to what is "not encyclopedic" discussed anywhere? In a guideline or policy? SaltyBoatr (talk) 14:33, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
See WP:NOT...specifically #3 under Wikipedia is not a directory. Kingturtle (talk) 14:40, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you.

I just want to thank you for granting my request. Also, thanks for moving my user pages I really appreciate it. MS (Talk|Contributions) 01:29, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

No problem. Happy editing! Kingturtle (talk) 01:33, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Leading the league in wins; Deletion of material

Hi ... can you please give us some guidance as to your thoughts on the issue discussed at [1]?

In short, I input a sentence that pitcher x was leading the league in wins. That is mentioned in more than one article, and in fact the focus of at least one -- as reflected by its title.

A fellow editor believes the sentence should be deleted now. I am happy with it being deleted when out of date, but believe that deletion is not mandated now. Analagous to our having stats in infoboxes, that turn sour with time (and are replaced, in time). Many thanks.--Ethelh (talk) 00:29, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Afghanistan

Nationalism/pov-pushing is rearing its ugly head again at Afghanistan. A little help, please? carl bunderson (talk) (contributions) 21:14, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. carl bunderson (talk) (contributions) 21:30, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Would you look at his recent contribs on Afghanistan? I don't think they're an improvement, and prefer the old version, but I don't want to knee-jerk revert him, either. Thanks King. carl bunderson (talk) (contributions) 21:58, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

I am not a nationalist, if anything am very liberal and certainly don't impose. I am a Pakhtun, am interested in tribal people, Baloch, Pakhtun ect, am new to Wikipedia, have very little IT skills and am shocked at the hostilities displayed in the NWFP page, Pakistan page and even the Afghanistan page, towards our Pakhtun identity. Historically, perhaps because of our relatively nomadic life style combined with lack of education, others have spoken for us, written about us and often not very accurately. Our efforts to be assertive, make mends are met with extreme hostility in Pakistan and now in Afghanistan as our identity is seen as a threat (perhaps because of the area of land we occupy) and is it any wonder that extremism (with encouragement from outsiders) flourish in our lands. We are referred to by people with a negative/lazy attitudes to us, as Afghans by Arabs, Pathans by Indians/British or Pashtuns by Persians/Pakistanis but often not as Pakhtuns and yet Tajiks, Uzbecks are just as Afghans. Pakhtuns speak Pakhto with many accents, such as using "sh" sound in place of "kh" and this varies from area to area pending on how much exposure we have had to other languages such as Persian or Indian, but our race/major tribe is Pakhtun and our language is Pakhto. As an educational resource, it appears, Wikipedia is NOT playing neutral in this regard. Standardisation without prejudice (which is not absent in this case) is fine but for educational/historical/heritage reasons at least, native/natural names of a people, a language and places must be preserved/referred to. Should Pakhtuns NOT be empowered to be themselves? It's reached a level that even Pakhtuns are not sure that they are Pakhtuns. Can the English be nationalistic if they call themselves English in Britain? If you write an article on Wales, do you not say that they are Celts and is it nationalistic to do so? If Wikipedia is going to use Pashtun and Pashto than in brackets, Pakhtun and Pakhto should be added. i.e. Pashtun (Pakhtun) and Pashto (Pakhto). It appears that there are experienced, well tuned Wikipedia editors who are playing "monopoly" with the NWFP and Pakistan pages. This cannot be healthy for Wikipedia in the long run as inexperienced new editors can make valuable contributions even if their contributions comes across as vandal, in fact especially as knowledge is not just the abode of the professional editors. Further is it a copyright violation to select a quote from a named source and why do you label a new edit simply as vandal without checking. Also, why did you not block Carl too, we were both guilty or both innocent.

[edit] Demography of Afghanistan

Hi Kingturtle, I just realized that the ethnolinguistic maps in Demography of Afghanistan are created by the banned user Beh-nam (talk · contribs) and Pashto is for sure under represented. Can these maps be removed? Best regards. MassaGetae(talk) 20:12, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

File:Map of Ethnic Groups in Afghanistan, by district.svg and File:Map of Languages in Afghanistan, by district.svg were created by Lokal Profil I believe. I am in correct? Kingturtle (talk) 22:10, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
Oh ok, thanks for clarifying. But Lokal Profil writes in source: Information and colours from Map of Ethnic Groups (in Districts) in Afghanistan.jpg by Le Behnam
The maps which are used as source are created by Beh-nam for ethnic groups and languages. See history of the original maps for ethnic groups and languages. Both the maps especially the linguistic one seem to contradict data from aims.org.af which is claimed as the source. MassaGetae(talk) 07:51, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
Is User:Le_Behnam the same as Beh-nam (talk · contribs)? User:Le_Behnam has never been banned or blocked. Kingturtle (talk) 12:02, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
Yes, I think he is, because on revision of 14:56, 10 February 2007 User:Le_Behnam wrote on his user page: "I'm on the English Wikipedia and my account name there is Beh-nam" MassaGetae(talk) 12:28, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
Okay, I'll look into it further. Kingturtle (talk) 12:30, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
I think there should be a map that corroborate the source aims.org.af. Thanks! MassaGetae(talk) 08:06, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

I have brought this Beh-nam issue up at the Commons:Administrators noticeboard. Kingturtle (talk) 17:56, 19 June 2009 (UTC)


I had asked User:Lokal_Profil some time in February to re-check the sources and re-create the maps. He used official data provided by Afghanistan's government on http://www.aims.org.af. See my request here. The linguistic map shows the dominant language of the region, i.e. the language with the largest percentage.
I would also like to ask you to take a look at Pashto language. It seems that User:Massagetae is putting controversial information as well as a controversial (and inaccurate) map (which has been removed from various other articles) into the article. He is directly contradicting the Encyclopaedia Iranica. Tajik (talk) 08:51, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
Unfortunately, I don't know enough about Pashto language to make any sort of content judgment. I apologize. Kingturtle (talk) 12:04, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your comment. However, I am not asking you to comment on the language, but on the sources used. Another admin has already explained to him that his source is not reliable, while the Encyclopaedia Iranica - in fact - says the exact contrary. I have explained this on the article's talk-page. Tajik (talk) 17:15, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi Kingturtle. Your help (and that of others) is really needed in Pashto language and Demography of Afghanistan. I've asked Massagetae (talk · contribs) to stop his edit warring and POV pushing. Thank you. Tajik (talk) 08:53, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

I have blocked Massagetae for 72 hours. Kingturtle (talk) 12:39, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Just offering my two cents here. I don't consider Massagetae to be any serious edit wars (only a minor scuffle with Tajik on Pashto language and Demography of Afghanistan, but I only see 1-2 reverts). For the most part, Massagetae was reverting an IP editor's unexplained removal of content and other disruptive behavior. I have blocked that IP for 3 months for his/her lengthy history of disruptive editing (in fact you blocked the account back in January). Nishkid64 (Make articles, not wikidrama) 12:56, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the information. If you feel my block of Massagetae should be reduced or lifted, please proceed. Kingturtle (talk) 13:01, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Issues are present, but I think we can get the message across with a shorter block. Reduced to 24h. Nishkid64 (Make articles, not wikidrama) 13:19, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Irwin Schiff

Dear Kingturtle: Would you mind taking a look at this article? I believe you put the cleanup tag on the article in February of 2008. Your evaluation would be appreciated. Yours, Famspear (talk) 21:19, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] PizzaMan usurpation

I left a message for you at Wikipedia:Usurpations Pizzaman79 (talk) 14:21, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

I am looking into it. Kingturtle (talk) 18:05, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. If you can't find out or you're busy with other stuff, we could also just wait and see what the usurpation does, but i was just curious. --Pizzaman79 (talk) 14:04, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
I found an answer to my question. I wasn't aware of usernames being case sensitive. That's why i couldn't find my edits. It's also why i couldn't find my german account i had made to claim the sul, and why i mentioned JA and ET accounts. My apologies for the confusion, i did read Wikipedia:Username and other relevant articles, but apparently my attention was lacking. Knowing this, i would like to also register/usurp Pizzaman as a doppelganger account, at least on the NL and EN wikipedia. How should i go about this? Perhaps I (or a translating bureaucrat) could start by politely asking the JA & ET users to change their name? The JA account is inactive for two years and the ET account only made one article edit. Pizzaman79 (talk) 12:48, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Create a new account called PizzaManTemp. Then using that account, make a request for User:Pizzaman at WP:CHUU. Kingturtle (talk) 18:16, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Done. Thank you very much for your time and advise. I'll log out now so as not to bother the usurpation process.Pizzaman79 (talk) 10:13, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

You can continue your usual edit habits. They will not affect the usurpation at all. Kingturtle (talk) 10:31, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
Thank you. The usurpation is done and also for the other request. Great that you could do this at once. PizzaMan (talk) 10:51, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit]  ?

You have got to be kidding me. I said I was going to contact another bureaucrat. What do you have against me? Pzrmd (talk) 04:32, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Explain this section to me in you own words. Pzrmd (talk) 04:32, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
I admitted I had an old account; you trusted me. This is all I have to do. What if I didn't admit I had an old account? Is it policy to be required to admit one is starting fresh? I didn't read that anywhere. If I never did reveal this, I would never have to reveal my old account. I'm just another new user, with a background in Wikipedia. Pzrmd (talk) 04:36, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

As I said in my statement, it isn't your edits of articles that really concerns me, it is when you involve yourself in !votes. It is very important for a CheckUser to verify that your old account is no longer active. Kingturtle (talk) 10:42, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] hello

Is it forbidden to copy text from a another website? How about books or magazines?--Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 19:42, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Copying text word for word is definitely forbidden. Summarizing is okay, as long is it is done correct. See Wikipedia:COPYRIGHT#Using_copyrighted_work_from_others. Hope that helps. Kingturtle (talk) 19:45, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

How about fact books that are free to read online? Like Google books, is it okey to copy exact segments from them?--Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 19:48, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

If it is in Public domain, then it is okay; for example, any work published before January 1, 1923 anywhere in the world is in the public domain and okay. Material on *.gov and *.mil are usually in the public domain. However, we'd still rather have such text summarized instead of copied. Wikipedia:FAQ/Copyright can also be of assistance to you. Kingturtle (talk) 19:53, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

How about newer books, written a couple years ago that are free to read on Google books? --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 20:03, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Nope. Just books from before 1923. Kingturtle (talk) 20:24, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

I'm pretending that I'm here to thank you for filling my usurpation request, but my true motivation is just to try out the new signature. Steve Smith (formerly Sarcasticidealist) (talk) 03:46, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

nicely done. Kingturtle (talk) 11:36, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
A question, actually: my SUL is still under Sarcasticidealist; do you know if there's some way to divorce en-wiki User:Sarcasticidealist from that SUL (with or without replacing it with en-wiki User:Steve Smith)? It's just kind of annoying to get logged in here as Sarcasticidealist whenever I log in anywhere else, even if I was already logged in here as Steve Smith. Steve Smith (talk) (formerly Sarcasticidealist) 22:03, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] CHU

Sorry about that... I got confused. I even checked the log. <scratches head> --Dweller (talk) 10:49, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

No problem. Thanks for covering for me on the other ones. It must be something in the mooncycle. I had to do the same thing for Bibliomaniac15. Kingturtle (talk) 10:51, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
And I've done it myself before. It does confuse the heck out of me when I come across it. I've posted an idea at BN. Interested to "hear" your views there. --Dweller (talk) 10:56, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Check it out. Here's what happened. I *did* mark them as done and not done, and someone removed them. Kingturtle (talk) 19:00, 25 June 2009 (UTC) How odd... I like the way it screwed up that username change request, too. Deliberate or cock up? --Dweller (talk) 07:53, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Joshua Landis article

The link is working now: http://faculty-staff.ou.edu/L/Joshua.M.Landis-1/

This is direct copied and needs a complete re-write: "It is widely read by officials in Washington DC, Europe and Syria. Dr. Landis regularly travels to Washington DC to consult with the State Department and other government agencies.

He is a frequent analyst on TV and radio. Most recently he has appeared on The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer, Charlie Rose Show, CNN, Fox News, and has been widely quoted in the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, Washington Post, LA Times, and comments frequently for NPR and BBC radio. He has spoken at the Brookings Institute, USIP, Middle East Institute, and Council on Foreign Relations." --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 14:15, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Your advice

Off2riorob, the mention you made on Connolley's talk page was the correct action to take... was correct and is appreciated. Thanks. (Off2riorob (talk) 00:58, 26 June 2009 (UTC))

[edit] Bot renaming

Could I have an immediate renaming for a non-controversial name? The name is NightmareBot, I own it, it is not a bot, could I rename it to something minus the bot? Such as Cake Stairs Thank You ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 12:37, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstars

The Barnstar of Diligence
I'm awarding you this barnstar of diligence for your combination of extraordinary scrutiny, precision and community service to wikipedia. South Bay (talk) 04:40, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
Thanks! That's a nice way to wake up this morning. Cheers, Kingturtle (talk) 13:25, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] positive result

blurry lights

Now are you going to leave me the hell alone? or are you now going to suggest that I use this computer for this account, then my friend's or library's computer to gain more consensus with my old account. And you know my old account if you searched what I was talking about in the email. Pzrmd (talk) 15:40, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm glad this is finally resolved by a CheckUser. Best of luck, Kingturtle (talk) 18:20, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] NisarKand

Hi Kingturtle, I hope you are fine. I think there is a new sockpuppet of NisarKand (talk · contribs): Larawbar (talk · contribs). See for example this edit. Tajik (talk) 09:23, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Lou Gehrig

Kingturtle, Should you be interested, I've taken File:Lou Gehrig stamp.png to Deletion Review here.  JGHowes  talk 19:56, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] RfA matters

Could you withdraw my RfA? Thanks, ceranthor 12:10, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I was not online when you made this request. Best of luck in your next RfA. Kingturtle (talk) 19:04, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
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