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Contents 1 Dashboard 2 Barnstar 3 Minor Barnstar 4 Dwelly project 4.1 Done (22/03/06) 4.1.1 Also incorporating some text from Dwelly 4.2 To do 4.3 Additional 5 Catacol Whitebeams et al 6 Places needing images 7 Soviet team 8 Discussion of serious, yes? 9 Cornwall and the Danes 10 YESYESandmanySockpuppets 11 Scottish Islands Project 12 List of freshwater islands in Scotland 13 Falklands History 14 Scottish Islands project 15 Ulva/Comments 16 Events leading to the Falklands War 17 Irish language (and GD) 18 Thanks for the invitation 19 The Novels WikiProject Newsletter - Issue XVIII - November 2007 20 Maps 21 Infoboxes 22 Erraid 23 Falkland Islands pictures 24 Jean Dorey 25 Falkland Island Maps 26 Bickering 27 Please look at my discussion of Scottish Highlands page 28 Ulva 29 More Mallimakery 30 Church of Scotland Cathedrals 31 Islands of the Clyde collaboration 32 The Novels WikiProject Newsletter - Issue XIX - December 2007 33 Penwith Wikiproject & Cornwall Wikiproject 34 Esperanto 35 Devon flag 36 Fergus 37 Novels Collaboration of the Month 38 Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Mebyon kernow.jpeg 39 Recorded form 40 The Novels WikiProject Newsletter - Issue XX - January 2008 41 Happy New Year 42 Roy P 43 Centralized TV Episode Discussion 44 Gaelic help 45 Reverts 46 Query 47 No need to shout 48 RE: Here, here 49 Skerryvore 50 Zburh 51 The Novels WikiProject Newsletter - Issue XXI - February 2008 52 Beinn a' Bhùird 53 -hou 54 Roman in the gloamin' 54.1 See also 55 Whiteness 56 My RfA 57 BTW 58 March 2008 59 The Novels WikiProject Newsletter - Issue XXII - March 2008 60 WikiProject Novels - 1st Coordinators Election 61 Orphaned non-free media (Image:Mebyon kernow.jpeg) 62 Edinburgh Rugby Peer Review 63 Your references on Constitutional status of Cornwall 64 Do not remove or alter sourced info 65 The Novels WikiProject Newsletter - Issue XXIV - May 2008 66 Edgeøya 67 Lakes and lochs (sea lochs/freshwater lochs) 68 Proposals for new Australian states 69 Falklands Placenames 70 -hou 71 Proposed deletion of Texe Marrs 72 Jura 73 List of places in Highlands 74 Hugh Nibley‎ 75 Harold Innis 76 stub tagging 77 The Novels WikiProject Newsletter - Issue XXV - June 2008 78 Falkirk 79 Bearnaraigh 80 Events leading to the Falklands War 81 New Group you may be interested in 82 about "remove - irrelevant, this is not about Sweden)" 83 Good job 84 Scottish place names in other countries 85 Oxford Wikimania 2010 and Wikimedia UK v2.0 Notice 86 Calling all active WP:NOVELS members 87 WikiProject Novels Newsletter - September 2008 88 Carnoustie, Gaelic placename 89 Alzheimer's disease 90 Fothriff and Fortriu 91 Annandale Water 92 The WikiProject Novels Newsletter - October 2008 93 The WikiProject Novels Newsletter - October 2008 94 Composite rules shinty-hurling 95 Altvaid 96 RogerMilesHutchinson 97 Proposed Merger of "Non-Trinitarian churches" with "Nontrinitarianism" 98 List of Basques & Maurice Ravel's image 99 You might be interested in... 100 rel not rel-en 101 The WikiProject Novels Newsletter - November 2008 102 Obama/McCurry 103 Linga, Vementry 104 Deletions - Modern Celts 105 Loch Leven Castle 106 Extinct settlements proposal 107 Reverting redirect of Little Sark to Sark 108 AfD nomination of Angel hair 109 An article you created maybe deleted soon: Tools which can help you 110 Three and a half years later... 111 British Chilean 112 Gigha 113 Novels Collaboration of the Month: February 2009 114 Cornish people 115 The WikiProject Novels Newsletter - March 2009 116 West and East Germany 117 Obama's Mom's partial Scots roots 118 Turkey national rugby union team 119 British political parties 120 Graeme Davis (mediaevalist) 121 Articles for deletion nomination of Texe Marrs 122 Eilean a' Chaolais 123 Rugby union in Tunisia 124 Sport 125 Coordinator Election

[edit] Dashboard

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[edit] Barnstar

I, V. Molotov, hereby give you this barnstar for participation in VfDs.

Molotov (talk) 21:14, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

Thank you. First time I've been decorated. --MacRusgail 15:32, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Minor Barnstar

In recognition of your many good minor edits. Reyk 22:58, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

• Thanks! --MacRusgail 22:58, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

• My pleasure. You deserve it. Reyk 23:18, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Dwelly project

Category:Dwelly This category is for articles incorporating text from “Dwelly’s [Scottish] Gaelic Dictionary” (1911) by Edward Dwelly, from that dictionary's encyclopedic entries (rather than just definitions). Where possible/suitable, an English translation is used as the title:

[edit] Done (22/03/06)

Aoghairean, Aois-dàna, Brownie (elf) (Uruisg), Canntaireachd, Ciud-siorraig, Clann-an-oistir, Clay-body (Corp-creadha), Còmhla-bhigein, Crann-nan-gad, Crois-iarna (Iron Cross is taken), Crom Dubh (Crum-dubh), Cuirm, Daugh (Dabhach), Druids' glass (Gloine), Druineach, Foot plough (Cas-chrom etc), Force-fire (Tein'-eigin), Half-foot, Lavellan (Labh-allan), liaghra], Long Èireannach, Lèine bhàn, MacGillonie (Sguaban-stothaidh), Matron's badge (Bréid), Muc-sheilch, Ounceland (Unga, Peighinn etc), Oxgang (do.), Pennyland (do.), Religion of the Yellow Stick (Creideamh...), Scottish Gaelic personal naming system (names appendix), Slinneanachd, Sunwise (deiseal), Taghairm, Traditional dyes of the Scottish Highlands (dath), Tulchan (Tulachan), Wonder tuft (Tom-an-ioghnaidh)

[edit] Also incorporating some text from Dwelly

• Coracle + Currach (Curach), Drinking horn (Corn), Friday (Di-haoine), Sunwise (Deiseil),

[edit] To do

• Aurora borealis (Na fir-chlis), bauk (leum-iochd), Cairn (Carn), Crofter (croitear), Fallaid, faoilteach (+ Faoilleach), gradan, muileann-bra (English title), posting (postadh), poit dubh, propataireachd

[edit] Additional

Improve Edward Dwelly's biography.

[edit] Catacol Whitebeams et al

		The Special Barnstar
		For your many contributions to improving articles about Scottish islands Ben MacDui (Talk) 20:53, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Places needing images

Islands: Ascrib Islands, Soay, Isle Ornsay, Barra Isles, Fladda, Treshnish Isles, Stac Biorach, Inchmahome, Rough Island, Scotland, Eilean Liubhaird, Little Bernera, Muckle Green Holm, Rysa Little, Gunna, Kili Holm, Island Macaskin, Uynarey, Hermetray, Islands of Fleet, East Linga, Linga, Samphrey, Linga, Vementry, Gloup Holm, Uyea, Northmavine, Shetland, Brother Isle, Ramna Stacks, Handa, Scotland, North Ronaldsay, Yell (island), Grimsay,

Locations: Keith Inch, Cairn O' Mounth, King Edward, Aberdeenshire,

etc etc

Improved: Whalsay, Eday, Flotta

[edit] Soviet team

I've had a quick look and will take a more in depth look tomorrow. My initial thoughts are that you've made a pretty good start.

I think "national" is justified as the USSR was a independent country even if it was a state nation rather than a nation state. Unlike say the Lions, the African Leopards or Pacific Islanders which have national teams for their constituent members, the individual Republic's teams were not really treated as being "national" although Georgia managed to tour Zimbabwe in their own right.

The table with the ENC results I stole from Italian wiki. It's probably more appropriate to put the position that the Soviets finished each season. Believe it or not Italian wiki has the results for every season played. This is impossible to find anywhere in English.

My other thought is whether this article should be merged with the CIS one. I don't think the team was reconstituted so much as the name was changed and probably the anthem. It might be worth looking at whether other sports e.g. soccer, athletics have one article for the old USSR and one for the CIS or a joint article with the CIS being seen as the continuation of the old USSR team.GordyB 18:34, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

The Communists ought to have played league rather than union because it was a working class sport rather than union which in most places is popular mostly with the middle classes. They liked rugby union rather than league because it was much easier to be competitive against amateur teams, especially when their players weren't really amateur (a lot were in the military or the police and were given special preparation).

Romania were a semi-pro team playing against amateurs. They stopped being any good when Communism collapsed and their players needed to find real jobs and then professionalism was permitted (they never had the money to benefit). The likes of the USSR and Romania would never have been any good at league because they would have had to play against fully professional players.

Of the former USSR republics only Russia plays league to any extent. This is a post-Communist development and comes down to some oligarch or other who likes the sport. Yugoslavia played league before WW2 but Tito had league clubs forcibly converted into union ones.GordyB 21:20, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

On the subject of Georgia, Ukraine etc within the USSR. I would compare those teams to Australian or South African state teams (pre Super 12) or Irish provinces / Scots super-districts (pre Celtic league). They usually only ever played each other and rarely got to play against national teams and were never invited to tournaments for national teams. In the past states sometimes even went on foreign tours.GordyB 22:13, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion of serious, yes?

Hello my friend, apology from before discussion, but i would like to ask a serious question for my scottish friend.

As you support historic nation of Cornwall, would you support historic nation of Northumbria for independAnce? thank you. YESYESandmanygoals 10:04, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

No, because Northumbria has not been in continuous existence. Unlike Cornwall. There was no "Northumbria" 2/300 years ago. The current Northumbria is just a region set up by London penpushers. --MacRusgail 15:12, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Not sure if this is right. Northumberland is just Northumbria with land taken away yes? like Berwick or Poland?

Anyway it is not likely happening as people of these lands are very integrated now i think, Lothian people are Scottish, North-east are confused slightly and yorkshire is yorkshire pudding i think. Thank you for discussion MacRusgail. YESYESandmanygoals 15:41, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

I come from the north east, and am Scottish. (Work that one out). --MacRusgail 15:51, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

It just means you are Russell Anderson, mask is slipping MacRusgail. YESYESandmanygoals 15:53, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Who? I am from the North East. The real North East. Like Aberdeenshire. :) --MacRusgail 15:54, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Haha political statement, don't tell the Geordies. saying you are REAL north-east could mean that you advocate the whole island being together, i know that you are not unionist (me too) so it's ok, but you know what i eamn i think, i guess i mean east-midlands then ok. Thank you Rus YESYESandmanygoals 16:02, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

OK sorry for bothering again but i have more questions Rus, i would like to ask of extreme north England, some of it used to be in old Scotland (nothumberland, cumberland, durham etc) - if there was a real movement to join Scotland (ofcourse it would have to be long way in future and be serious) would you support it? the people of this region is quite different to rest of england with culture, accent, dailect etc and has lot of commons with lowlands scot, thanks you Rus --YESYESandmanygoals 18:04, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Hello again Rus, was wondering about this above question, am serious in asking it - i know right now it is many miles away but i was just interested inn if you would support this idea? and if it was happen would you welcome this people as Scots? thanks YESYESandmanygoals 11:00, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Has been 10 days, please answer question, am asking serious for research not goading. YESYESandmanygoals 12:10, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

It shows of goading victory for you not to reply Rus YESYESandmanygoals 11:04, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm on holiday!!! To answer your question, other than Berwick upon Tweed, I doubt the rest would want to join Scotland, but if there was a strong demand there, who knows... --MacRusgail 15:46, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Sorry for disturb mate, did not know of your holiday, enjoy. It is great thought though, yes? I think this people have much Scottishness in personality (even if they maybe not know it), it would also be labbelled "English-Jocks" maybe, they are already called "Southern-Jocks" by many southerners so it is maybe destiny. I think in long future this is something that can happen, there is maybe no 'demand' but i think an underlying 'understanding' by these people. YESYESandmanygoals 15:59, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Who is this looper? Anyway, i am from this region and i can definately say this wouldn't happen anytime soon, i would agree that we are maybe closer to the Scots than Southern England in most areas, but Scottish? No.

The biggest part of the 'gripe' is probably the verbal 'battering' that the English get from the Scots, obviously as 'English people' we are included in these insult-fests - even though most Scots don't hold us in the same regard as people south of here. It's an odd one, but ultimately you must be smacked off your tits if you think this could happen.

Whenever i've met Scots on holiday or wherever they've always had good banter and cracking humour, i see them very similar to the people of the North-East. Gazh 09:52, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

I am from the North East. And I don't mean Northumbria. :) --MacRusgail 16:17, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cornwall and the Danes

I removed the paragraph from Constitutional status of Cornwall not for the reasons you suggest (thanks for the knee-jerk assumptions though) but for those that I stated in the edit summary. Basically, it's a wreck. It completely misrepresents the nature of the conquests accomplished by Swein and Cnut, giving an account which would just about fit the Danish conquests of the ninth century but bears no resemblance to those of the eleventh. It implicitly misrepresents the events which followed Swein's death. It misrepresents the political organisation of England before, during and after the period of Danish rule. It includes some complete gibberish where part of a sentence seems to have gone astray, leaving the meaning of the residue mysterious. It provides no references in support of its main point, which it seems to suggest is based not on primary sources or historical analysis of the question but on a map drawn up by some unidentified modern historian, which is inaccurate in other respects. In the absence of any references I can only imagine what (if anything) else the central assertion may be based on.

In addition to this, the only relevant piece of evidence that I am aware of (though there may be others) indicates quite the opposite of what the paragraph asserts. This is a charter issued by Cnut in 1018, confirming one issued in 1016 by Edmund Ironside, which granted lands in Cornwall to Bishop Burhwold of St Germans for his lifetime and thereafter to the monastery at St Germans. The fact that the king had such lands to grant is suggestive; more strikingly, on condition that prayers are said for Cnut's soul, it frees this land of the obligations which would otherwise accompany its ownership, with the exception of those regarding military service. The existence of obligations to Cnut as king, attached to the holding of lands in Cornwall, would indicate that Cornwall was indeed under his direct rule. I have not yet added this piece of evidence to the article because I only know of it from descriptions and have not yet read the actual text or a full translation, and I wish to confirm whether it does indeed say what these descriptions suggest. If it does, it would seem to refute the claims made by this paragraph.

If you wish to retain this paragraph, I suggest that you rewrite it from scratch, and come up with some properly referenced sources to back it up.

You also reversed my revision of the caption to one of the maps on this page. Rather than change the caption I should really have removed the map entirely, but I was feeling conservative. It is irrelevant to the matters in question because, although undated, it seems to portray the situation at some point in the eighth century, after the conquest of Devon by Wessex but before that of Sussex and Essex by Mercia. As such, it relates to a period in which, as far as I know, nobody has ever suggested that there was any sort of English control over any part of Cornwall. It therefore has no bearing on the subject of the article, which hinges on developments in later periods (the same objection can be made to the inclusion of the map portraying the Roman era, and arguably the 802 map as well). The caption itself is a ludicrous statement of the blindingly obvious and completely irrelevant. It declares that the map shows Cornwall, Ireland, Wales and the Isle of Man as separate entities (as indeed they were at that time); oddly, it fails to point that it also shows Wessex, Sussex, Kent, Essex, East Anglia, Mercia and Northumbria as separate entities (as they also were). Therefore it portrays a number of territories which later became part of England and a number which did not; it has no bearing whatsoever on the question of which of these categories Cornwall belongs to!

Incidentally, I am baffled by the apparent belief that modern maps constitute historical evidence. I could draw a map showing twelfth-century Portugal to be part of Japan; it wouldn't make it so. Now, if you could find a map drawn in the eleventh century...

If you can justify the retention of these components of the article, please do so.

Zburh 01:11, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

In the absence of any response, and having checked the text mentioned above, I have reinstated these changes.

Zburh 01:51, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Please stop reversing my edits and telling me not to remove referenced material when the material in question is not referenced, and innaccurate, irrelevant, nonsensical or strongly POV into the bargain. I have given you an explanation of why I made the changes I did, to which you have made no response. Why are you not prepared to discuss these points rationally? Zburh 15:45, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] YESYESandmanySockpuppets

Have a look at this. What do you think? Lurker (said · done) 13:38, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Hardly a sockpuppet, more for light relief, plus i never really used to to make edits or to enforce points, and i never attempted to hide it, Lurker remove your Mod badge and resign, abysmal attempt at mixing it. 194.193.170.84 14:18, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Scottish Islands Project

Hello. Thanks for the suggestion. I have joined up. Rosser 14:26, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of freshwater islands in Scotland

Hi! I spotted the images you added after I created the image gallery this morning. I have moved two of the images into the gallery to keep the article format the same. One image I have deleted as an image of a priory is not really relevant to the article, which is basically a list of islands. It would be far better off used on a specific article either on the priory or the island it is on. I think there is a great danger here that the article could get swamped by too many images, having tried to keep the ones I placed there to show the lochs rather than individual islands. I have therefore placed an editors note to this effect and put a link in the section header to the wikimedia commons category on Scottish Lochs. That way a vast array of images can be accessed by the reader whilst keeping the article size relatively small. The only Loch I have been unable to locate an image for is Loch Avich, so if you can find one that could do with adding to the gallery, though with one of the others deleted to keep the page uniform, probably the first of the two on Loch lomond. Richard Harvey 14:16, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Falklands History

Hi, hope you don't mind but I partially reverted one of your edits. I'd been planning to include some details but you beat me to it. Can I suggest that discussions on the construction of the airport belong with the Communication Agreement (1971) and not the hijacking incident. Justin talk 21:48, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Scottish Islands project

Very interesting, I do not know, thank you. I will look at the amendments to french articles.

I import also photographs on Commons from Geograph when I develop an article. You may think to update some articles that were devoid of pictures.

Rémih 17:05, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

For yours Possible candidates for Good or Featured article status, you can translate fr:Stac Lee who is a french good article. Rémih 17:47, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ulva/Comments

Hi there, you've accidentally published this as a mainspace article when I presume you meant it to go on an article talk page or your own user space somewhere...! Kim Dent-Brown ^{(Talk to me)} 15:30, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

It's meant to go here - Talk:Ulva/Comments. I have put a prod notice on it. --MacRusgail 15:32, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Events leading to the Falklands War

Hi MacRusgail, your recent contribution regarding Operation Journeyman [1] is a repetition of the original text. I'll suggest that you merge your new text with the old text.

Old text:
Operation Journeyman, the despatching of a small military force to the South Atlantic by Callaghan's Labour government, may have helped avert further action and subsequent reports from the Joint Intelligence Committee (JIC) in 1977, 1979 and 1981 suggested that "as long as [Argentina] calculated that the British Government were prepared to negotiate seriously on sovereignty, it was unlikely to resort to force." However, if "...negotiations broke down, or if Argentina concluded from them that there was no prospect of real progress towards a negotiated transfer of sovereignty, there would be a high risk of its then resorting to more forceful measures, including direct military action."^[1]

Your text:
Operation Journeyman was a Royal Navy operation in which a naval taskforce was sent to the Falkland Islands in November 1977 to prevent an Argentine invasion. The operation was ordered by James Callaghan after fifty Argentine "scientists" landed on Southern Thule prompting fears of an Argentine invasion of the Falklands. The Argentinians set up a military base on Thule. It is likely the prompt action prevented a more serious attack. The force planned under heavy security was led by the nuclear submarine HMS Dreadnought and also consisted of two frigates, Alacrity and Phoebe, and the auxiliaries Resource and Olwen as support vessels. The Argentines rapidly became aware of the taskforce's presence but their forces remained on Thule and Callaghan decided against the use of force to evict them.

Furthermore the 50-men Operation Sol on Thule establishing Corbeta Uruguay is already mentioned earlier on in the text. You can be content with mentioning Operation Sol, then the reader will know what you mean.

A reader will find the present edition rather confusing. Necessary Evil 17:04, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Irish language (and GD)

Siarach, coming out from a few conversations with others, I've created a Gaeilge task force to coordinate translations of Irish place names and other Irish-language related work. Since you seem to have an interest in this stuff, you might want to get involved. Also, do you know of any related Scottish project? Maybe starting one, or linking up, would be possible? In any case, maybe drop a line on the talk page so that we can all "get to know each other" as the man might say. --sony-youth^pléigh 15:50, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

There isn't a Scottish equivalent. Gaelic names for some Scottish places are easy to get a hold of, particularly in the Highlands or where the derivation is obvious. In some cases, an ancient name has been used in articles, or an earlier

form e.g. St Andrews - of these I think only "Cill Rimhinn" is current. Even the Lallans name "Sanct Androis" has a medieval ring about it, I'd go for "Sanct Andraes", if "sanct" can be said to be current... The following articles may also be of interest -

• • Canadian Gaelic
  • Newfoundland Irish
  • Permanent North American Gaeltacht

--MacRusgail 18:07, 30 October 2007 (UTC) p.s. I think some of the biggest Gaelic related howlers must be in Celtic mythology articles, particularly where Encyclopedia Mythica is concerned - it has bizarre entries for all major world mythologies...

[edit] Thanks for the invitation

Hello MacRusgail,

my activities were caused by the fact that I was writing an article about Knock in County Mayo, Ireland for the german WP. When checking Wikicommons for photos I found some showing different sites but having similar names. So I made a little research on the the internet and wrote another two articles about two different "Knock Castles" in german WP. To gain correct interlinks I had to move articles in the english WP. As I live in southwest germany, close to Hahn airport, (near the village of Sohren, where they have Highland games every two years) it´s a little hard for me to write more about Scotland than what I can find in the internet. Thanks for the invitation anyway. Kallewirsch 21:57, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Maps

Thanks for your kind words about the new Falklands maps. Apcbg 18:44, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Infoboxes

I am trying to convert Template:Infobox_Falkland_island into a working format along the lines of Template:Infobox_Scottish_island, but I am having no joy with it. Can someone help please? I have little experience with infoboxes. --MacRusgail 16:43, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

I recommend a start and request at WP:INFOBOX but WP:Infobox is also very useful. Edmund Patrick ( ^confer _work) 19:27, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you! --MacRusgail 19:28, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Your inquiry seems to be resolved so I've removed the helpme tag. Feel free to re add it if you need to. - Rjd0060 19:56, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks again, both of you... --MacRusgail 19:59, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Erraid

Noted your addition of Arthràigh. I'm intrigued - can you give me the reference for this? Ta. Ben MacDui^Talk/Walk 19:14, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Falkland Islands pictures

I'll try to find a Darwin picture, too. Apcbg 10:41, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jean Dorey

I wanted to know how it ended! Cheers, Angus McLellan (Talk) 16:34, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Falkland Island Maps

You are of course correct, English does not necessarily equal British but I was actually referring to the English Language. However, I do prefer the version you just added because it reflects the context of the sovereignty dispute not the two languages.

The point I was trying to make was that the Spanish Language names are not necessarily the same as the Argentine names - Puerto Argentino for example is referred to as Puerto Stanley elsewhere (and there are others). Argentina invented many names for features/places that have never had a Spanish name. Thats why I made the distinction.

Anyway the article was improved, which is the main thing. Justin talk 11:25, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, I'd used "Spanish language" rather than Argentine, because I know some of these names have currency in Latin America - although I agree with you about Puerto Argentino (which I gather not all supporters of the Argentine claim like anyway). The new map you put in is far superior to the old one I put in. You're right, a lot of the names are deliberately invented for political purposes. (same could be said about some of the British ones - including Stanley and Falkland), but others seem to be somewhat older. It's a small point, but a subtle one. There are also some English speakers I know of, who insist on using the Argentine names, e.g. some British leftists, Irish republicans etc. --MacRusgail (talk) 11:28, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bickering

Most of the time when we've edited the same articles I have respected your input as a valued contributor. If I think you've been wrong I've said so but I'm criticising the edit not yourself.

My objections to the addition to the History of the Falkland Islands article largely stem from the quote about Sheeps entrails. A) its trivia and B) its probably Urban Legend.

Telephony may be of historical interest and I did indicate I don't have a problem with that portion of the edit. I probably should have just removed the offending part but sometimes the UNDO button is easier (I know laziness on my part).

Rather than bickering and embarking on an edit war over this, can't we work together to improve the article? Justin talk 13:30, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Please look at my discussion of Scottish Highlands page

Hey, you seem pretty on the ball for this sort of stuff, does my discussion topic on whether the religion section on Scottish Highlands needs some work seem legit to you? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.249.132.254 (talk) 03:50, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ulva

I have not had as much time this month as I would have liked, but you have done a great job. It should certainly be within a few tweaks of GA. I'd be happy to give it a proper sequential review once you think its in a relatively stable state. Ben MacDui^Talk/Walk 10:44, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] More Mallimakery

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--Mais oui! (talk) 06:54, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Church of Scotland Cathedrals

I've replied on my talk page. Cheers! —Suxamethonium 15:11, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Islands of the Clyde collaboration

Hello. Thanks for the information. Well done on the collaboration. Regards. Rosser 19:40, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Penwith Wikiproject & Cornwall Wikiproject

Hi, I see you are a member of the Cornwall Wikiproject. A proposal has been made to merge the Penwith Wikiproject into it. You can join in the debate here. Best wishes, DuncanHill (talk) 12:23, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Esperanto

Saw your note re Eilean Aigas. You might be interested in the discussion about using audio files instead here. Ben MacDui^Talk/Walk 19:54, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Devon flag

Tapadh leibh for your yellow stick on the Devon Flag page - Cheers me bud Stevebritgimp (talk) 22:23, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fergus

Please could you add a citation at Fergus (name) for Kerruish being derived from it? - Fayenatic (talk) 17:42, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Novels Collaboration of the Month

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[edit] Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Mebyon kernow.jpeg

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[edit] Recorded form

On recent edits to Papa, Shetland and South Havra your edit summary states "recorded form". I assume this refers to a written form in a primary source. I find it hard to grasp some your subtleties, although agree we should be as accurate as possible. The Orkneyinga Saga reference appears in some of the recent edits (mainly infoboxes). I do not have access to it, so can I ask you to add or remove as necessary. I gather it discusses more than Orkney names. Thanks. Finavon (talk) 20:00, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Happy New Year

Hello and Happy New Year, there's a new (well, new to non-admins) rollback feature that makes it easier to revert vandalism. Would you like me to enable it for you? There's a stupid bureaucratic process you can follow if you like, but since I disagree with it just let me know if you want it turned on, Angus McLellan (Talk) 21:11, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Roy P

I spend so much time putting fact tags on articles it is pleasant surprise to see someone adding a reference without any new material. Can I assume that the good Mr. Pedersen's map provides Norse names for Orkney islands and backs up H-Smith? Ben MacDui^Talk/Walk 17:49, 11 January 2008 (UTC) PS I saw you vacationing in the Scilly Isles recently. I wondered if we should offer them a variant of the Island infobox template.

OK. I imagine you have seen his Gaelic map. As a matter of fact I am acquainted with the gentleman. Ben MacDui^Talk/Walk 18:27, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Centralized TV Episode Discussion

Over the past months, TV episodes have been reverted by (to name a couple) TTN, Eusebeus and others. No centralized discussion has taken place, so I'm asking everyone who has been involved in this issue to voice their opinions here in this centralized spot, be they pro or anti. Discussion is here [3]. --Maniwar (talk) 19:31, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Gaelic help

Hello.

Do you know what "Iar-thuath na Gàidhealtachd" means? I've seen it on a brochure for North West Highland Geopark, an article I'm working on. I'd be grateful if you could tell me what it means exactly. Lurker (said · done) 16:15, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

North-west Highlands. So obvious, eh? Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 16:23, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I was thinking it was a translation of the park's name into Gaelic. Lurker (said · done) 16:27, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, I dunno what "Geopark" would be; you'll have to wait for MacRusgail to come back for that. I'd be guessing that would be something like pàirc-gheòlas, but I dunno. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 16:47, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

North West Highlands Geopark doesn't have a Gaelic version of "geopark" in its name. Lochaber Geopark, however, is "pàirc-geòdha Loch Abair". I can work out "pairc", but does "geodha" mean "geography"? From placenames, "geodha" seems to mean "narrow sea inlet". But "park of the sea inlet" doesn't mean geopark. Lurker (said · done) 11:47, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Reverts

Why did you revert my edits of Bac Mòr and Bac Beag? I made improvements to the layout, removed incorrect stub messages and used correct section headings. -- Alan Liefting-talk- 18:25, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Query

Hi there. I'm curious about this edit you made. Why is Scotus not considered a surname? Google seems to suggest that it may be a surname. Or is Aaron Scotus really the equivalent of saying "Aaron the Scot"? (ps: I'm American, so forgive me for my ignorance in all things Scottish) BuddingJournalist 06:31, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it's the equivalent of saying "Aaron the Scot". It's a nickname, rather than a surname. --MacRusgail (talk) 15:26, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] No need to shout

I was awol last week, and I am catching up on some unfinished business, but I will get up-to-speed on Yell asap of course. Good spot on the dear old Duke btw. Ben MacDui^Talk/Walk 19:07, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Here, here

I just wish all those people would clear off so's I wouldn't have to think about anything but writing articles. That's the thing I find most annoying ... all that many of those people do is distract real wikipedia content contributors from their work. Vandalism you can just revert ... but scores of tendentious idiots, well meaning simpletons and semi-deranged pov pushers who are protected and encouraged ... that's something which sucks up time ... those guys are bigger wikileeches than the vandals. Anyways, I'll stop there before one of the hundreds of 15 year olds with sysop privileges notices and posts a bunch of WP links on my talk page. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 21:51, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Skerryvore

Ciamar a tha thu? If you have a mo could you look at this diff [4]? The translations of the small rocks are not as the source says and this may just be speculation. Thanks. Ben MacDui^Talk/Walk 08:33, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Zburh

On a lighter note, I see that your user page bears the words, "You're better off talking to me!". Easier said than done... - Zburh (talk) 22:42, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

We already have talked. It's like listening to a scratched record. --MacRusgail (talk) 22:55, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

No, I have talked. You have ignored me, while continuing to reverse my edits with either misleading explanations or none at all. The only substantive response I can think of to any point I have raised, here or anywhere else, was your explanation on the article's discussion page of why you thought the map of Roman Britain was relevant to the article. When I made a counter-argument to that you went silent. Apart from that, there has been nothing from you.

As for scratched records, the only repetitive element in my remarks has been my requests for you to stop behaving in this way. If at any point you had been willing to enter into a reasonable discussion that would not have been necessary, but I am still waiting for that to happen.

Zburh (talk) 22:50, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Had a look at the article and I see that, wonder of wonders, some references have begun to appear! Better late than never. The paragraph's general presentation of events is still tripe (multiple English kingdoms etc), but perhaps the main point is salvageable after all, assuming that the works referenced support that main point, with appropriate citation of primary sources. Could we have specific page references to the discussion of the Cornish situation in these books please?

In this new-found spirit of flexibility, might you explain the relevance of Richard of Cornwall?

Zburh (talk) 23:43, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

As one of the most powerful men in the Middle Ages, Richard's status must be of great interest in any constitutional debate. It appears that he had considerable autonomy in Cornwall, as well as substantial lands in England proper.--MacRusgail (talk) 23:52, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

The only element of his status that has any relevance to the constitutional status of Cornwall is his position specifically as Earl of Cornwall. The fact that this particular Earl also happened to hold other, completely unconnected offices as "King of the Romans", Count of Poitou and whatever else has no bearing on that position, any more than the constitutional status of Normandy was transformed by the fact that various medieval Dukes of Normandy also happened to hold a quite separate position as Kings of England (a position which placed them among the most powerful men in Europe), not to mention other offices added later such as Count of Anjou, Duke of Aquitaine etc. Constitutionally speaking, William the Bastard, King of England and an independent sovereign, was an entirely separate person from William the Bastard, Duke of Normandy and a vassal of the King of France. Only the nature of these men's position as Dukes of Normandy is relevant to the constitutional status of Normandy at that time, and the same goes for Richard and the Earldom of Cornwall.

Now, if Richard's constitutional position as Earl of Cornwall was identifiably different from that of any other Earl of Cornwall during this period, that fact would merit inclusion. If you have evidence that it did, you should add a discussion of these differences to the article, in place of the current paragraph. If not, there is no more reason to discuss him as an individual than there is to discuss Reginald de Dunstanville, Piers Gaveston or any of the other Earls who held the office between the Norman Conquest and the introduction of the title of Duke of Cornwall. Either way, irrelevant biographical details about the other lands and offices he happened to hold, let alone the buildings he constructed, have no place in this article.

Zburh (talk) 01:23, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Beinn a' Bhùird

• Just a 'thanks' for 'correcting Gaidhlig spelling and giving pronounciation' on this article - I've only ever hear it pronounced 'voord' - BUT - my only source on this Watson (1975) gives the other one I added - so I was stuck. Do you use a book or other source? WikiWriter (talk) 12:49, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

• Thanks for getting back - sorry - I didn't make myself clear, but Watson is saying that he's giving 'local' pronunciation, but I've spent a lot of time around Braemar and never heard any 'local' pronounce it other than as the 'voord' you gave. It could be - though - that he's giving the 'real-local' and 'real-oldie' pronunciation WikiWriter (talk) 17:54, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

• Thanks for your suggestion - I'll keep it in mind WikiWriter (talk) 19:15, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] -hou

You're right - that article already has a references section, which I somehow completely missed. You have my apologies. I've been tagging many unreferenced articles recently, and I must have just assumed this was one of them without bothering to check properly. Thanks for pointing it out; I'll be more careful in future. Terraxos (talk) 01:30, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Roman in the gloamin'

I've been reading Moffat's Before Scotland and thought you'd appreciate the sentiment expressed on p 228. "The scandalous truth is that our education system has supplied us with a great deal more information about the Romans and Greeks than our own Celtic past. And what is more, older generations can decline amo, amas, amat… but they cannot work out how to pronounce the Gaelic names of half of Scotland's geography. It is nothing less than a national disgrace." Ben MacDui^Talk/Walk 13:32, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

He writes well, but please don't use Moffat as a source on wikipedia! Please! Not at least without double-checking with a decent sources. ;) Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 13:43, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

How unreliable is he then? --MacRusgail (talk) 23:33, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Pretty. He's frequently listed among academics (informally of course) as one of the many books to avoid. I had that Celtic Kingdoms book or whatever it's called (gave it to charity shop), and oh, it was full of so much nonsense. You'll be able to judge that for yourself if you read that. He's a journalist though I think, so he'll have decent enough research skills to get basic things right. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 00:32, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

The two books I've heard mocked are the Arthur and the Lost Kingdoms and Sea Kingdoms (the one I gave to charity), which I got an idea of myself. The disagreement ... are we talking about the seal in Archibald the Grim still? There really are quite good reasons why that's regarded as a negative depiction of Galwegians who were indeed frequently called "Wild Men" by Lothian and North English sources. But whenever someone finds a citation to support something you doubt, you can still change "it is" to "is thought by some" without removing the citation. Regards, Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 01:49, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] See also

Talk:Hekla. Ben MacDui^Talk/Walk 21:57, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Whiteness

I apologize for my decision. I reasoned that given the marginal nature of the subject, all the information likely to be entered would fit in the mother article. Best regards. Adoniscik (talk) 17:26, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

File:David,larry.JPG		My RFA
		Thank you muchly for your support in my recent request for adminship, which was successfully closed on 76%, finishing at 73 supports, 23 opposes and 1 neutral. The supports were wonderful, and I will keep in mind the points made in the useful opposes and try to suppress the Larry David in me! Now I'm off to issue some cool down blocks, just to get my money's worth! Kidding btw. All the best, Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 11:27, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] BTW

... you're long overdue a RfA nomination yourself. Tell me you'd accept it and I'll make one. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 13:36, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for that. I don't believe you are that way though, or perceived that way. You've certainly not been any "less restrained" than myself in the last 3-6 months. I'm not totally familiar with everything you'd said around wiki, but all the signs I can find are good. Would you not reconsider? You, believe it or not, are needed in admin land for the same reasons you say I am and Kathryn is. All the best, Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 15:24, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] March 2008

Hello. Please don't forget to provide an edit summary. Thank you. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 16:52, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Edinburgh Rugby Peer Review

Hi there, I was wondering if you could take a look at the Edinburgh Rugby article for peer review when you get the chance. I've decided to try and improve it, I've added some recent history and referencing but I'm fairly new to the whole editing process and was wondering if you could give me some pointers on what the most important issues are to correct. Cheers! PeemJim86 (talk · contribs)

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[edit] Your references on Constitutional status of Cornwall

I finally got round to checking the references which you added to back up that paragraph about Swein and Cnut. It was a bit of a chore, since you had not given page references, but I spent some of my valuable time trawling through the books. I was not impressed by what I found.

Have you ever actually seen these books, let alone read them? I thought a book called "The death of Harald Bluetooth" was on odd reference for this subject. Sure enough, the book makes only the briefest allusions to Swein's activities in England, and I could find no mention of Cornwall at all. As for Trow's book on Cnut, it not only fails to support the assertion made in this paragraph, but explicitly contradicts it, saying that Cnut's England was bordered on the north by Hadrian's Wall (wrong, of course, but that's not the issue here), on the west by Offa's Dike and everywhere else by the sea. The map, which was referenced to the Penguin Historical Atlas of the Vikings, is not from that book (which, incidentally, shows Cornwall as part of England in this period).

While I was checking these, I also looked up your reference to Snyder regarding the elusive Cadoc. Surprise surprise, I can find no reference to Cadoc in the book (which is another odd book for you to be citing in support of your position, since it presents Cornwall as having become part of England at a very early stage).

In short, your "references" are spurious, providing no foundation for the assertions in whose support they are cited. It is hard to credit that they can all be the result of innocent mistakes or misunderstandings. I am aware of the Wikipedia policy on assuming good faith, but I have trouble accounting for this behaviour except in terms of deliberate trickery. Until and unless I am given a convincing alternative explanation, that is the assumption I will be working on.

I will also be removing the material involved, since this fiasco returns matters to the situation before you introduced these references. I imagine that you resorted to this approach because you could not find any reputable source that would support the surreal version of events presented by the article as it stands. Zburh (talk) 16:31, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

This is a very serious accusation. I confess, some of these references were taken from elsewhere on wikipedia. However, I cannot say that you have been particularly intellectually honest on this matter, since you have repeatedly removed material. --MacRusgail (talk) 22:44, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Do not remove or alter sourced info

It's against Wikipedia policy to remove sourced material, so consider this a warning. The common name in English is Persian Gulf, not the Gulf which is a shorter form of Persian Gulf, that's why the Wikipedia page is titled Persian Gulf as well. --07fan (talk) 19:06, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Stupid or not, the full name in English language is Persian Gulf. National Geographic specifically states "Historically and commonly known as the Persian Gulf", and most publications in the English-speaking world use the term Persian Gulf, even the United Nations has a policy on this[5]. The Gulf is mostly used as a shorter form of Persian Gulf (ie Gulf War), not to dispute the full name Persian Gulf. It's only in UK where some publications use "the Gulf' for that purpose.--07fan (talk) 19:15, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

By removing sources and trying to impose your unreferenced version, you're disregarding several Wikipedia policies such as WP:No original research, and if you revert one more time, you will have also broken WP:3RR. If you continue in such manner, you will be blocked from editing. So please do not removed sourced material or repeatedly revert edits.--07fan (talk) 19:26, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes, and people can read all about this fascinating subject over at Persian Gulf naming dispute. I didn't name the bloody rugby team. Perhaps people use the term the Gulf in order that they don't piss off Arabs or Persians. Please keep it over on the name dispute page. I had to provide a link as people kept on changing the page title to "Persian Gulf rugby team". However, that's not what they call themselves...

No "research" original or otherwise was involved. Just take it over to the relevant page and keep it off the rugby one. I have provided a link.

--MacRusgail (talk) 19:29, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

And you did the right thing to note the controversy in the article, in order keep the page stable because of the controversial name. However, the section is question should be sourced, and reflect realities. So I don't understand your insistence on original research, and removing sources.--07fan (talk) 19:40, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

For the second time, it is not "original research"! I appreciate the name is controversial. Both "Gulf" and "Persian Gulf" are in use - which I mentioned. I really want to keep the controversy off the page - I can understand why people are annoyed by it, but it's a no win situation. --MacRusgail (talk) 21:25, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Edgeøya

This article clearly states that "Edgeøya is an uninhabited Norwegian island". But at last mention "It is seldom visited today". This last sentence needs some more clarification. Seldom visited means what? Who visits and why? Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 12:28, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Also if this island is uninhabited, then there should not be any port etc. Thus the people who occasionally visit the island, how they visit if there is no port or transportation in the island? Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 12:31, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Lakes and lochs (sea lochs/freshwater lochs)

I responded to your comment at User_talk:Docu. -- User:Docu

[edit] Proposals for new Australian states

Can you come up with a more credible source than unitedstatesofaustralia.com about Fiji seeking union with Australia? I tried to find something as a reference, but I ended up finding another one about Papua New Guinea instead. There was a party advocating East Timor's integration with Australia in 1974, and there are references for that, but nothing about Fiji. Quiensabe (talk) 23:39, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

The proposals about Fiji were many a year ago - 19th century in fact.--MacRusgail (talk) 17:15, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Falklands Placenames

That revert was completely unnecessary, I provided a citation and gave a fair chance for someone to come up with the same for the converse. Please don't do it again. Justin talk 19:08, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

I don't understand why you made the change. It's fairly obvious that supporters of the Argentine claim do not use "Port Stanley" or the name "Falklands". They don't like these names, and consider them alien impositions on claimed Argentine territory.--MacRusgail (talk) 19:10, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Because if you look on the history page of Falkland Islands you might find that when I first started on Wikipedia I had an admin and the Red Hat gang up on me in an edit war, then I was the only one to get a block. Justin talk 19:14, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

That was probably a bit unfair on you, but I think you are wrong in this case. --MacRusgail (talk) 19:24, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

I found that there are sources that will support that the names associated with the Argentine occupation are considered offensive, they're by and large only used in Argentina. However, I can't find a single citation to support the converse and believe me I have tried. Justin talk 19:29, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

It's difficult to find direct evidence, but certainly, many of the English names are not used by Argentines (except perhaps for smaller features)--MacRusgail (talk) 19:36, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

UNINDENT

You might find it surprising but the use of English/Spanish placenames is not as simple as you suggest. Many veterans of the conflict refer to Stanley rather than Puerto Argentino. I can't find evidence the use of English names is considered offensive in the same way the "made up" names associated with the Argentine invasion are considered in the islands. Justin talk 20:00, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

I appreciate that, but not all veterans actually agree with the claim. That's the problem. Some of them came to disagree with it, thanks to the conflict itself. Others were probably lukewarm before they got drafted. --MacRusgail (talk) 20:04, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] -hou

Just in case you're interested in this one...(improvement welcome!) --Sionnach 18:03, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Probably should mention Norman language more, plus also the fact that the suffix -holm can be found in some Hebridean names, e.g. Lingeam.--MacRusgail (talk) 13:19, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Lingeam? The only one I could find was "Linga Holm", which would be in Orkney and not in the Hebrides. Do you know of any other Hebridean place names with the suffix –holm? It would be an interesting fact I would like to add.--Sionnach 06:12, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

A lot of the names have been Gaelicised. Lingeam is the name of several very small Hebridean islands - I think they may be mentioned at Linga (disambiguation) --MacRusgail (talk) 15:13, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

-holm

In Loch Roag - Gre\ineam (cf Greineim off Mealasta = Green Holm), Gousam, Liacam, Trathasam, Seildeim, Siaram.

off Mingulay - Geirum Beag & Mo\r

off Vatersay - Biruaslum

Monach Isles - Odarum Off Hermetray - Fuam, Greanem Off Killegray & Ensay - Vacam, Heslem, Coddam, Sleicham Off Scalpay - Greinem x2, Ruam an Tolla, Raarem Off Scarp - Ostem

off Gigha - Gigalum off Gometra - Eilean Dioghlum off Sanday - Ha\slam off Eilean nan Ro\n - Meall Holm

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[edit] Jura

Hi. I'm not sure why you reverted my edits to the Jura article. Could you explain why you feel the title 'Literature and Film' is still appropriate, now that you have added the useful sentence about Gaelic poetry and song? And I do think the beginning of the para about Orwell reads oddly, with that unattributed quotation about 'the theses at the heart of his novel'. Perhaps you could give its source - that might help it make sense. Dhmellor (talk) 09:19, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

You've got the wrong end of the stick. I had no problem with the retitling (Poetry and song are still literature though...), but the fact that you had removed a sentence from the George Orwell bit which was referenced.--MacRusgail (talk) 13:17, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

In that case, could I suggest that you list Gordon Bowker's book fully in the bibliography. Also, the quotation should be referenced within the text, as outlined in Wikipedia: Style Guide. But it still seems over the top to use a quotation simply to point out that Orwell had actually conceived 1984 long before he wrote it on Jura. Dhmellor (talk) 10:20, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] List of places in Highlands

I can see why you put the link redirect in, as the naming of the article is incorrect, should be called List of places in Highland. Why didn't you drop the me a message though, as it could be clearly seen that i'm the sole editor on this list so far, and all it does peev me off when somebody comes flying in, without consulting other parties. I do plan to get the article name changed to the real name once the list is complete. scope_creep (talk) 11:09, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Believe me, the fact that Highland Region has a sign in the middle of Drummochter Pass (half way up the Highlands) saying "Welcome to the Highlands" pisses me off. Not only are huge parts of the Highlands not in Highland region, but some Lowland places such as Caithness are in it... Good work, but please don't conflate the two.--MacRusgail (talk) 11:11, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Me as well... The way I was building the Highland list, and all other list, was only those places inside the border of the council area. Each council has a map of wards, and a boundary map, which shows area covered, which I was using. You can tell by a quick glance at multimap/google and the council border map is a village/etc is in an area. Anyway quick question. I notice some folk building list of places that were putting the wards, constituents in as well. Is that normal practice? scope_creep (talk) 22:59, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hugh Nibley‎

Please take your specific concerns about the Nibley article to the talk page rather than using "cite" or other templates. I personally find them very obnoxious. Thank you. WBardwin (talk) 23:12, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Harold Innis

Hi. Thanks for your two criticisms on the Harold Innis talk page. I noticed them today and have posted the following response. Hope these are satisfactory answers: "I tried to make clear in both the lead to the article and the section on Innis and McLuhan that the two men were colleagues at the University of Toronto. The lead says explicitly that McLuhan was a disciple of Innis's and expressed a debt to him. The section on Innis and McLuhan tries to explain the similarities and differences between them. On the second point, I've eliminated those simplistic "right" and "left" designations you so rightly criticize. Thanks." Bwark (talk) 20:32, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] stub tagging

Hallo, You didn't need to add {{stub}} as well as {{moon-stub}} to Promontorium Laplace - it means it turned up in Category:stubs waiting to be "stub-sorted" unnecessarily. Please don't add the general stub tag if you've already added a more specific one. Thanks! PamD (talk) 08:02, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

I don't have time to look up which tags work and which don't. I didn't even know if the Moon one would work.--MacRusgail (talk) 12:31, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Novels WikiProject Newsletter - Issue XXV - June 2008

The June 2008 issue of the Novels WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. SteveBot (owner) 02:47, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Falkirk

Hi, we now seem to have two "List of places in Falkirk..." pages, List of places in Falkirk, and List of places in Falkirk district. Could you get rid of the "Falkirk" one? I don't know how to do this. I had a similar problem with Stirling, as you can imagine. I chose "List of places in Stirling (district)". If that irritates you, do you want to get rid of the brackets, to be in line with Falkirk? I'm still too chicken to do a redirect anyway... :-) Renata (talk) 14:44, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

I can't delete pages, you'll have to go to an administrator for that. But you can contact User:Kathryn NicDhàna, she may be able to help you. It was really to distinguish between places within the town of Falkirk and the council area. In the case of Stirling, the council area goes a long distance beyond the actual city. --MacRusgail (talk) 16:15, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bearnaraigh

Surprisingly hard to find decent information. I'm taking a short wikibreak - I suggest we just let this run on into July. Ben MacDui^Talk/Walk 08:44, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Events leading to the Falklands War

Is there a need to duplicate that information from Falklands War in this article? This is about events before the war not during it. Justin talk 15:07, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes, because it proves it was all monitored. Some of the info on the Argentine navy was stolen from the Soviets by the Norwegians apparently.--MacRusgail (talk) 20:38, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

During the war, not in the events leading up to it. That was the point. Justin talk 21:09, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

The Argentine invasion itself was one of the events leading up to it. The Declaration of War came later, and the reconquest later still. --MacRusgail (talk) 16:05, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

The events you added occurred during the war, not the lead up. I thought your interest was in adding things unrelated to the dispute? Justin talk 21:48, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New Group you may be interested in

[6] Justin talk 21:34, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Was that remark really neceesary? Justin talk 21:31, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Definitely, I've no interest in getting into fights with Argentines (or Brits!) A lot of my efforts have been towards providing a more general coverage of the islands which goes beyond the squabble. --MacRusgail (talk) 21:36, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Really, well just after an Argentine editor that I and other editors have been working with signs up. Why didn't you just kick him in the bollocke eh? Justin talk 21:46, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

I've changed it, but not sure what you mean. I'm interested in improving Falkland Island articles, but I wanted to make it clear I'm definitely not a Union Jack waver. I expect the content about sovereignty and the War is going to be altered continually as long as we have open editing on wikipedia. --MacRusgail (talk) 21:49, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

No-one assumed you were, I invited you because I thought you were interested in the history not to make a point about Scottish nationalism. Justin talk 21:55, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

And your recent addition was truly helpful, thank you. Justin talk 21:58, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] about "remove - irrelevant, this is not about Sweden)"

at Bahá'í Faith in Norway - Norway and Sweden have a long history with eachother and I didn't come up with this information on my own - it was the first entry on the one of the significant entries on Norwegian references for the article. I don't think it's intrusive or inappropriate. It's derived from the way the content is used already in the subject the article is about.--Smkolins (talk) 15:49, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes they do, but Norway is no more a part of Sweden, than Scotland is of England, or Tahiti is part of France. Making assumptions about such things won't make the Bahai's friends. I know that they like to talk about internationalism but these are not always positive relationships, particularly not colonial ones, like that of Sweden (and Denmark) over Norway. Swedenborg was not Norwegian, but unfortunately he seems to be another crank that the Bahai's have leapt onto as a "prophet".--MacRusgail (talk) 20:02, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Or of Samoa and American Samoa. One cannot review the history properly ignoring the lack of connection or only paying attention to that connection. I wasn't making assumptions or particularly trying to earn friends. I was trying to reflect the content of the refs to make a good article. If there are colonial relationships, as I'm sure there are, then as they have aspects that deal with the history of the Bahá'í Faith then they should have some content about that. I'm not taking a position on whether Swedenbord was a crank or if his station with respect to the Bahá'í Faith is a prophet or not. I'm saying a important reference for the article mentions it prominently and removing it is at least debatable.--Smkolins (talk) 21:38, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Swedenbourg was not a Norwegian, therefore his inclusion is irrelevant. --MacRusgail (talk) 16:58, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Good job

Good job, MacRusgail!. I was thinking about a bio of LT. Col. Piaggi, so you have save me a lot of time. I promise to upload the "Che" pic playing rugby if I can find it. Thanks.--Darius (talk) 16:28, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Scottish place names in other countries

I am afraid I cannot fathom why on earth you keep removing a perfectly good and helpful template. If people are interested in Scottish place names, they are going to be more likely to be interested in English place names around the world (as well as welsh but there are no articles) and vice-versa. Your comment about Mongolian place names makes no sense whatsoever because whether you like it or not Scotland were also part of the British Empire which is another reason why the two are so closely linked. The fact is though that there were previously links in the See also sections, so I basically replaced those with the template.

It's completely unrelated. Stop doing it please. I know exactly why you are doing this - political agenda and all...--MacRusgail (talk) 15:43, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Oxford Wikimania 2010 and Wikimedia UK v2.0 Notice

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[edit] Calling all active WP:NOVELS members

WikiProject Novels Roll Call

WikiProject Novels is currently holding a roll call, which we hope to have annually. Your username is listed on the members list, but we are unsure as to which editors are still active within the project. If you still consider yourself an active WP:Novels editor, please add your name back to the Active Members list. Also feel free to join any of our task forces and take a look at the project's Job Centre to get involved!

Next month we will begin the coordinator election selection process. We hope to have more involvement and input this time around! More news will be forthcoming. Thanks, everyone! María (habla conmigo) 18:04, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Novels Newsletter - September 2008

The WikiProject Novels Newsletter Issue XXVI - September 2008
Archives  |  Tip Line  |  Editors The Novels WikiProject Newsletter Issue XXVI - September 2008 Project news The Margaret Atwood novel The Penelopiad reached Featured Article status on June 29 and then appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page as Today's featured article on August 26. It is the first article created through Wikipedia:Articles for creation to become Featured. To Kill a Mockingbird appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page as Today's featured article on July 11. I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings reached Good Article status on July 1. Member news The members list is currently under review so we have moved all past active member's name to a Incumbent List and are doing a Project Roll Call. If you still consider yourself an active WP:NOVELS editor, please add your name back to the Active Members List. You may also wish to add your name to any of our many Project Task Forces. Task force news A Fantasy Literature task force has been proposed. Comments are welcomed on that proposal since we already have our own WikiProject Novels/Fantasy task force which is covered under our Novels WikiProject. Novel-related news Devil May Care, written by Sebastian Faulks ("writing as Ian Fleming"), has become Penguin Books fastest selling hardcover fiction title. It is the latest installment in the book series about British secret agent James Bond and was released to coincide with the 100th anniversary of late Bond creator Ian Fleming's birthday on May 28, 1908. Me Cheeta: the Autobiography, written by a ghostwriter, is the autobiography of Cheeta the Chimp who is listed in the Guinness World Records as the oldest recorded non-human primate at the age of 76. He has appeared in various movie roles which included twelve Tarzan movies and even battled addiction to alcohol and cigars. The book is not published until October 1, but judges for the 2008 Guardian First Book Award were sent a early version and were so impressed that they have included it on the 10-strong longlist. Stephenie Meyer, who is listed by Time magazine as one of its 100 most influential people of 2008, has decided not to continue with writing her draft for Midnight Sun after 12 chapters of the unfinished manuscript were leaked on the internet. Current debates Categories for Discussion has a series of discussions about whether to categorize certain specific types of fictional characters: double agents, dictators, characters with eidetic memory, etc. Advice from any Novels project members would be valuable in assisting them. WikiProject Media franchises aims to help editors with the coordination of articles within the thousands of media franchises which exist and has requested input from our members. They are currently discussing a naming convention for franchise articles. Since this may affect one or more articles in our Novel project, they would like to get opinions before implimenting any changes. From the Members With the Newsletter being almost three months overdue, I have decided to take on the position of Editor to make sure it reaches you regularly on time each month. The Newsletter is meant to inspire and encourage our team of Editors and so my goal shall be to make it informative and interesting each issue. We now have many positions vacant in our Project Team, so we are looking for members who have the time and interest to take on the various roles, details of which can be found at the Job Centre. Shortly a Coordinator nominations notice shall also be sent out to all members, which will commence the annual Coordinator selection process. Next month's Newsletter will include a message from our Coordinator Maria, who will introduce herself and speak on our forthcoming elections for extra Coordinators. Boylo (talk), Editor Collaboration of the Month This month's Collaboration has been selected by popular vote and is Look Homeward, Angel. The next collaboration is due for selection on 14 September, 2008 so cast your vote. Newsletter challenge Our last newsletter's challenge The Pure Land was completed by our member Maclean25, who also provided us with tipline news for this newsletter. The first person to start the article is mentioned in the next newsletter. This month's article is Leslie Ann Moore's first book in her fantasy 'Griffin's Daughter' trilogy, which was named by the Independent Book Publishers Association as the 2008 Ben Franklin Award winner for Best First Fiction, Griffin's Daughter. Note: This article was previously deleted due to lack of notability, but that now can be established since winning this award. To unsubscribe from further issues of this newsletter please remove your name from here.

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[edit] Carnoustie, Gaelic placename

I'd like your input in a discussion on the pros and cons of putting a Gaelic placename in the Lead and infobox for Carnoustie... if you could spare the time could you have a look at Talk:Carnoustie

Cheers Catfish Jim and the soapdish (talk) 14:53, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Alzheimer's disease

Replies to you on Talk:Alzheimer's disease. --Una Smith (talk) 15:55, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fothriff and Fortriu

Hi MacRusgail ... I removed the merge tags you placed on these two articles. The two topics have nothing to do with each other, Fothriff being the region west of Fife and Fortriu being the hypothetical Old Irish form for the region of the Verturiones (extant only in non-nominative forms). All the best, Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 13:37, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Annandale Water

...ah, but what about the Lake of Menteith?  :-)) Renata (talk) 19:27, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The WikiProject Novels Newsletter - October 2008

The WikiProject Novels Newsletter Issue 27 - October 2008
Archives  |  Tip Line  |  Editors The Novels WikiProject Newsletter Issue 27 - October 2008 Project news A Did you know fact from the new article The Masks of Time by Robert Silverberg appeared on the main page on 19 September 2008. Member news Nominations have now commenced for Coordinator Candidates for the Novels Project. Any member of the project may nominate themselves. Nominations close on October 27, so if you wish to run make sure you add your name before then. Details on the election process and the role of Coordinators can be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Coordinators/October 2008. The voting and question phase of the election will open on October 28 and end November 28. After the recent roll call, the Novels Project now has 74 active members. 15 positions still remain unfilled at the Job Centre, members who are interested are encouraged to apply. Pyfan has taken on the position of coordinator for the "Fantasy", "Science fiction" and "Shannara" task forces plus joined the "Style team". the_ed17 has also taken on the position of coordinator for the "Shannara" task force and joined the "Peer Review team". Coordinators are still required for the "Australian", "Chronicles of Narnia", "Crime", "Lemony Snicket" and "Short stories" task forces, which may be applied for at the Job Centre. Task force news A new task force has now commenced under the Novels Project known as the Twilight task force, based on the Twilight series of vampire-based fantasy/romance novels by author Stephenie Meyer. You may join by adding your name to Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Twilight task force/Participants or contact founder Bella Swan for more details. Member in Focus Yllosubmarine (talk · contribs) has been a member of the Novels WikiProject for nearly two years, and a coordinator since May. Aside from her work outside the project (including four FAs and six GAs in various areas), she has been active in the Project's Assessment and Peer Review departments. She hopes to continue in these roles as well as help encourage more activity and community research within the Project. With the upcoming coordinator election, she hopes that others will volunteer to become more active in their roles as Project members so that we can continue to provide quality articles to the readers of this encyclopedia. María (habla conmigo) Current debates A collection of Wikipedia articles is being collected together as Wikipedia 0.7. This collection will be released on DVD, so we have been asked to review the articles selected from this project. Revisions are requested before October 20. More details can be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/GeneralForum#Wikipedia 0.7 articles have been selected for Novel. From the Outreach Department On the advice of Coordinator Maria, the newsletter is now only distributed to active listed members of the Novels Project. A new section has started with this issue called 'In Focus', which will feature various members and task forces each month. Members are requested to post any news items to the Tip Line (found above) to make sure it reaches the next newsletter before closing date, which is always the last day of the preceding month. Any task force news should be added by the coordinator of that task force. Having news items helps inform members of what is happening at the various task forces and so can be a way of encouraging more membership and participation. Editors are required to assist with the newsletter for Task Force News and Peer Reviews & Assessments News, which involves the gathering of news items from the main project and the various task forces. These positions may be applied for at the Job Centre. Boylo (talk), Editor Collaboration of the Month This month's Collaboration has been selected by popular vote and is : Steppenwolf (novel). The next collaboration is due for selection on 1 November, 2008 so cast your vote. Newsletter challenge Our last newsletter's challenge Griffin's Daughter was uncompleted. The first person to start the article is mentioned in the next newsletter. This month's article is The Cater Street Hangman. This is the first published novel by historical detective fiction author Anne Perry whose early life featured in the Peter Jackson movie Heavenly Creatures. Note: This article currently redirects to Thomas Pitt (fictional character).

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[edit] The WikiProject Novels Newsletter - October 2008

The WikiProject Novels Newsletter Issue 27 - October 2008
Archives  |  Tip Line  |  Editors The Novels WikiProject Newsletter Issue 27 - October 2008 Project news A Did you know fact from the new article The Masks of Time by Robert Silverberg appeared on the main page on 19 September 2008. Member news Nominations have now commenced for Coordinator Candidates for the Novels Project. Any member of the project may nominate themselves. Nominations close on October 27, so if you wish to run make sure you add your name before then. Details on the election process and the role of Coordinators can be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Coordinators/October 2008. The voting and question phase of the election will open on October 28 and end November 28. After the recent roll call, the Novels Project now has 74 active members. 15 positions still remain unfilled at the Job Centre, members who are interested are encouraged to apply. Pyfan has taken on the position of coordinator for the "Fantasy", "Science fiction" and "Shannara" task forces plus joined the "Style team". the_ed17 has also taken on the position of coordinator for the "Shannara" task force and joined the "Peer Review team". Coordinators are still required for the "Australian", "Chronicles of Narnia", "Crime", "Lemony Snicket" and "Short stories" task forces, which may be applied for at the Job Centre. Task force news A new task force has now commenced under the Novels Project known as the Twilight task force, based on the Twilight series of vampire-based fantasy/romance novels by author Stephenie Meyer. You may join by adding your name to Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Twilight task force/Participants or contact founder Bella Swan for more details. Member in Focus Yllosubmarine (talk · contribs) has been a member of the Novels WikiProject for nearly two years, and a coordinator since May. Aside from her work outside the project (including four FAs and six GAs in various areas), she has been active in the Project's Assessment and Peer Review departments. She hopes to continue in these roles as well as help encourage more activity and community research within the Project. With the upcoming coordinator election, she hopes that others will volunteer to become more active in their roles as Project members so that we can continue to provide quality articles to the readers of this encyclopedia. María (habla conmigo) Current debates A collection of Wikipedia articles is being collected together as Wikipedia 0.7. This collection will be released on DVD, so we have been asked to review the articles selected from this project. Revisions are requested before October 20. More details can be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/GeneralForum#Wikipedia 0.7 articles have been selected for Novel. From the Outreach Department On the advice of Coordinator Maria, the newsletter is now only distributed to active listed members of the Novels Project. A new section has started with this issue called 'In Focus', which will feature various members and task forces each month. Members are requested to post any news items to the Tip Line (found above) to make sure it reaches the next newsletter before closing date, which is always the last day of the preceding month. Any task force news should be added by the coordinator of that task force. Having news items helps inform members of what is happening at the various task forces and so can be a way of encouraging more membership and participation. Editors are required to assist with the newsletter for Task Force News and Peer Reviews & Assessments News, which involves the gathering of news items from the main project and the various task forces. These positions may be applied for at the Job Centre. Boylo (talk), Editor Collaboration of the Month This month's Collaboration has been selected by popular vote and is : Steppenwolf (novel). The next collaboration is due for selection on 1 November, 2008 so cast your vote. Newsletter challenge Our last newsletter's challenge Griffin's Daughter was uncompleted. The first person to start the article is mentioned in the next newsletter. This month's article is The Cater Street Hangman. This is the first published novel by historical detective fiction author Anne Perry whose early life featured in the Peter Jackson movie Heavenly Creatures. Note: This article currently redirects to Thomas Pitt (fictional character).

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[edit] Composite rules shinty-hurling

I'm a little puzzled as to your objection to the Unreferenced tag on this article as it was, to my understanding, entirely unreferenced at the time the tag was added. It has since gained a solitary ref and I've edited accordingly for this to appear in a reflist, but with a refimprove tag as the article requires further citations. Does the list of external links, not of a specified connection to the text of the article, count as refs? Mutt Lunker (talk) 20:55, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Altvaid

Hello MacRusgail. I noticed the redirect that you created. Perhaps you might take another look, because (a) it's a double redirect (should go to Skye directly), and (b) there is no mention of Altvaid in the target article. The fact that Altvaid is so hard to document means it will be hard to add any referenced content about it no matter where it winds up. If there is no content for the redirect to lead to, why have it? Paradox! If you could find it in one of the official maps or census listings, that would make a big difference. EdJohnston (talk) 14:04, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

I discuss this over on the Wikiproject Scottish Islands page. Unless there is a link on there, these articles tend to be recreated ad infinitum as they come out of a gazeteer. --MacRusgail (talk) 16:06, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes, but for places with zero notability such as Altavaid, and Hilton-on-Bute, surely the cure is to stop people creating non-notable articles? I don't at all mind creating redirects to something the person looking for might can't conceivably confuse the redirect with, but to re-create them for their own sake, when the initial attempts to redirect were in some case contested and then a tedious prod process occurred just seems to like make-work to me. Hilton, Bute is a farm, not a settlement. Surely the next time someone wants to create the article from the gazetteer they will just change the redirect? As you must surely know there was a discussion at WT:SCO resulting in numerous prods. I honestly can't see anything in Wikipedia:Redirect that allows for the creation of a new page as a redirect for this purpose. Ben MacDui 08:04, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

It's difficult to police them all as there are so many. I suggest this is the best compromise - a redirect.--MacRusgail (talk) 15:42, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

The redirect doesn't meet one of the basic requirements for redirects. It has to have some payoff for the person looking for info on Altvaid. If the target doesn't mention Altvaid, why bother? EdJohnston (talk) 21:28, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

It talks about the area Altvaid is in, and tells them a great deal more about the place than the original page did.--MacRusgail (talk) 10:37, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RogerMilesHutchinson

The onus is on the editor not the reader. Somebody who puts the contents in Wikipedia should know about reliable sources and so on. I assume you know these policies. Dekisugi (talk) 10:56, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm well aware of these rules. He should not have written the article, but it does give a fairly balanced view of the subject. I was thinking of creating an article myself, but no one got round to it. --MacRusgail (talk) 10:58, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed Merger of "Non-Trinitarian churches" with "Nontrinitarianism"

Hello! I wanted to let you know that I am proposing the merger of an article to which you have been a major contributor, Non-Trinitarian churches, with a parent article, Nontrinitarianism. Reasons are stated at the Talk Page. It has also been added to the list of proposed mergers. Since you created the page originally and have been it's largest contributor, I felt it fair to let you know myself about the proposal. Lioux (talk) 12:35, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] List of Basques & Maurice Ravel's image

Hi, why'dja remove Maurice Ravel's image from the list of basques? Ling.Nut ^{(talk—WP:3IAR)} 13:30, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Oops, you added it, but added it to a section that was commented out. My mistake... Ling.Nut ^{(talk—WP:3IAR)} 13:33, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] You might be interested in...

Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#Wikiproject ExtinctSettlements Ben MacDui 08:43, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] rel not rel-en

You are absolutely right. I shall track the articles I ahve created and remove the en so it says rel Bashereyre (talk) 17:17, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The WikiProject Novels Newsletter - November 2008

The WikiProject Novels Newsletter Issue 28 - November 2008
Archives  |  Tip Line  |  Editors Novels portal The Novels WikiProject Newsletter Issue 28 - November 2008 Member news Coordinators election voting and question time is now open. Project members should vote for any candidates they wish to support by November 28 at the Coordinator Elections. Yllosubmarine, aka Maria, has decided not to be reappointed, her work as sole Coordinator since the last elections in May is highly appreciated by all members of the project. The Novels Project now has 88 active members. 18 positions remain unfilled at the Job Centre. Members who are active project contributors are encouraged to apply even if they can only do a position for a short time. Ladywitchthought has taken on the position of coordinator for the "Lemony Snicket task force". Project news On September 26, a fact on Shea Ohmsford, the protagonist of Terry Brooks novel The Sword of Shannara appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know? column. On September 29, the expanded article about the novel Thrones, Dominations written by Dorothy L. Sayers and Jill Paton Walsh appeared on the main page in the DYK section. On October 11, the new article Going, Going, Gone written by Jack Womack appeared on the main page in the DYK section. On October 18, a fact from The Dragon Lord by David Drake appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know? column. On October 22, the expanded articles The Sirian Experiments and The Making of the Representative for Planet 8 written by Doris Lessing appeared on the main page in the DYK section. On October 25, the new article A Real Basket Case by Beth Groundwater appeared on the main page in the DYK section. - Contributors are the_ed17, Maclean25 & Captain-tucker (who searched the archives). Task force and related news WikiProject North of the Rio Grande has begun. WP:NRG is an educational project aiming to "improve a selection of articles on Chicano and Latino literature to featured article status (or as near as possible)." Among the articles they are working on are How the García Girls Lost Their Accents and Who Would Have Thought It?. They welcome any advice or help that members of WikiProject Novels may be able to offer. If interested drop a note on their talk page. – Position of editor for 'Task force news' is still available at the Job Centre. Peer review and assessment news Peer Reviews are still open for three articles – At Swim-Two-Birds, The Emberverse series & Flowers for Algernon. Feel free to submit any novel-related article that you are working on for review, and please consider stopping by and reviewing an article, as we need more reviewers for our articles! – the_ed17 (talk), Editor – Peer review and assessment news Member in Focus Hi, I have been around this project for quite some time now. Bit of a hiatus earlier this year, but back now just contributing. The Novels WikiProject wasn't started by me but my interest in the subject initially attracted me to what was here. It has developed substantially in the last few years and now takes in all forms of Narrative Prose Fiction within its scope. We are about the content not the format of the prose so WP:Books differs a little in that an implied format is entailed; also they can also focus more clearly on non-fiction. WP:Literature are the "new boys on the block" and are a little more focused on the "quality" aspects of literature, and again they have less emphasis on pure fiction and the prose aspect. Our biggest problem is to maintain a certain focus of interest across such a broad subject area and we need workers who can develop task forces, teams for assessment, teams for peer review and so much more. "So much to do, so little time, I'm late, I'm late, I'm late" to misquote from Alice in Wonderland. Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) Current debates The featured list Narnian timeline has been nominated for removal. You can comment here. The Narnian timeline is a featured list, which means it has been identified as one of the best lists produced by the Wikipedia community. Novel related news Indian writer Aravind Adiga wins the Man Booker Prize for his debut novel, The White Tiger. From the Outreach Department As I shall be leaving Wikipedia, this will be my last newsletter. Any member who is interested in taking over the role of editor can sign up for the position at the Job Centre. Over the last month I have been working on a portal for our project. So am happy to announce that the Novels Portal is now up and running. Boylo (talk), Editor Boylo: Thank you for getting this newsletter back on its feet and going again. No Boylo equals no Novels Portal...heck, without you, we wouldn't have had a newsletter for these past months...so, for all of the members of the Novels WikiProject, I want to thank you for the time and effort you have put into this project, and I wish you the best of luck in all of your future endeavors. Thanks, pal. the_ed17 (talk) Collaboration of the Month This month's Collaboration has been selected by popular vote and is : Novel. As this is our Project's premier article, all members are asked to assist. The next collaboration is due for selection on 21 November, 2008 so cast your vote. Newsletter challenge Our last newsletter's challenge The Cater Street Hangman was uncompleted. The first person to start the article is mentioned in the next newsletter. This month's article is Mindplayers by science fiction author Pat Cadigan. 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[edit] Obama/McCurry

See McCurry under Family_of_Barack_Obama#Extended_family_paternal_relations. At least it seems like a Scots name. There is some Irish as well, which in early America often meant Scotch-Irish, i.e. Ulsterman, but this seems to be green rather than orange Irish. Smallbones (talk) 04:45, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Linga, Vementry

I noticed you reverted my edit to Linga, Vementry. I mainly made that edit for two stylistic reasons:

1. Templates like {{This}} seem more appropriate to link to disambiguation pages, because of their wording. I can't find proof of that, so I have asked about this at the {{Distinguish}} talk page.
2. The phrase "It should be noted" is considered "generally unencyclopedic" in the wiki's Manual of Style, and considered unnecessary "padding" by many other style guides (as I wrote in the phrase's article that I created). I think that removing pleonasms like that generally improves articles.

I hope that better explains my edits than my edit summary. I also hope you can further explain your revert, as you gave no reason in your summary. I probably won't reword the dab link again, but I still think "It should be noted" should be removed, and I'll remove that again in a week unless you feel there is some reason not to. --an odd name 20:29, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Lacking a response from you, I have removed "It should be noted", as described above. --an odd name 22:06, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

(re: Linga-ring thread) Per the first disambiguation usage guideline, I actually might chop it off entirely. (I did think it would be hard to confuse other Lingas.) I'll remove it next week if you have no concerns there. (Edit 02:28, 27 November 2008 (UTC)) We can then change the parenthesis note to "(Linga is an extremely common name for islands in Shetland.)", or remove the parentheses and say "It is one of many islands in Shetland called Linga." I prefer the second one, unless there's some overriding reason to say "extremely common". (end edit) --an odd name 02:10, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

I decided to just change it now, there and at Linga, Yell. --an odd name 02:30, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Deletions - Modern Celts

Please could you explain why you keep deleting my "qualifying comments" about the claimed "Celtic link" in sport and music? Millbanks (talk) 15:44, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Erm, because claims like Welsh bagpipes aren't used in modern music are easily debunked. Check out the pictures of the St David's Day rally in Cardiff.--MacRusgail (talk) 13:59, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Erm, I said that bagpipes were not exclusively Celtic. Or do the Celts have links with Albanians, Macedonians, Turks, etc? Millbanks (talk) 15:12, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

And? Bagpipes were used in the Roman Army, middle east, all over Europe - we know this. It's just that they have survived better in the so called "Celtic regions" than elsewhere in western Europe. --MacRusgail (talk) 15:33, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Loch Leven Castle

This article has been nominated and reviewed for good article status and needs some improvements, as discussed here. Since you have made some edits to this article, would you please help improve it? Cheers. Truthanado (talk) 14:45, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Extinct settlements proposal

Thanks for your support on this proposal. Sadly, I don't there's enough support to make it a "goer". What I've done instead, is to set up a family of categories "Lost settlements in x" under "Lost settlements". Used "Lost" instead of "Extinct" as there were alreadty some "lost settlements in x" categories that could be included. Also tied in cats such as "Ghost towns" and "Sunken cities". Comments welcome. The first negative comment has appeared at Category talk:Lost settlements in Asia. Folks at 137 (talk) 10:49, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

I was advised to propose renaming the "Lost settlement" categories. The discussion is at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2008 December 20#Category:Lost settlements. I hope that you will contribute. Folks at 137 (talk) 20:01, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Reverting redirect of Little Sark to Sark

Hi MacRusgail, Yesterday I made Little Sark a redirect to the main artile Sark, after carefully making sure that every bit of information in the Little Sark article was already in the Sark article. Additionally, Little Sark is a part of Sark and is not a separate island. Hopefully I've explained my reasons for doing this better than in the short edit summary. I would like to ask why you've perfunctorily reverted my edit, without providing a reason in your edit summary. If there is enough information (that's not mentioned in Sark) about Little Sark to make it a complete article on its own, I have absolutely no problem with that. As it currently stands, my opinion is that it should be a redirect to Sark.

Additionally, now that I look through the edit history for Little Sark, I see that you created the article, and you have reverted a previous edit that redirected Little Sark to Sark. I will not engage in edit warring with you, so I would like an explanation on your part concerning your unexplained revert of my edits. Thank you.

I have now proposed a merger of Little Sark into Sark, which can be discussed here.  LinguistAtLarge  18:59, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Angel hair

I have nominated Angel hair, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Angel hair. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. ScienceApologist (talk) 05:53, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] An article you created maybe deleted soon: Tools which can help you

The article you created, Angel_hair maybe deleted from Wikipedia.

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There are several tools and other editors who can help you keep the page from being deleted forever:

1. You can list the page up for deletion on Article Rescue Squadron. If you need help listing your page, add a comment on the Article Rescue Squadron talk page.
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4. You can merge the article into a larger or better established article on the same topic.

If your page is deleted, you still have many options available. Good luck! travb (talk) 22:02, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Three and a half years later...

Please see:

• Category talk:Post-Roman Scotland

Cheers. --Mais oui! (talk) 15:16, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] British Chilean

Hello MacRusgail,

I want to know why do you undue my redirects of Welsh Chilean, Scottish Chilean, and English Chilean to British Chilean. Those three articles are removed because they are nothing more than stubs with original research. Also, The population of each group is really small and have small contributions to Chilean society and culture. This is why I merged them to British Chilean. That is why I tell you not to undue my edits without valid reasons. Thank you for reading. Lehoiberri (talk) 17:55, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Because a) British is NOT an ethnic group, b) any article on British Chileans is inevitably anglocentric, and will misrepresent the Welsh and Scots Chileans as English.

The contribution of Scottish Chileans is not small! Ever heard of Thomas Cochrane. Ditto the Welsh Chileans. --MacRusgail (talk) 18:00, 8 January 2009 (UTC) p.s. Not all Basques come from Spain. Ever heard of Maurice Ravel?

[edit] Gigha

First of all, please help yourself to a gong: as Gigha has just made GA. If you like one or two more Yell and Ulva should pass fairly easily if you can supply page numbers for the relevant citations. The Gigha reviewer made a number of points, especially about the Orkneyinga Saga reference, which I'll raise at the appropriate page. Arran beckons. Ben MacDui 19:28, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

If you have a copy of the Orkneyinga saga handy could you take a look at Talk:Gigha pls - a page or map number might well resolve the issue. Cheers, Ben MacDui 08:53, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Novels Collaboration of the Month: February 2009

You supported Flowers for Algernon, which has been selected as the Novels WikiProject's new Collaboration of the Month. Please help improve this article towards featured article standard. Cheers. – Liveste (talk • edits) 06:30, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Cornish people

Please have the courtesy to explain why you want to revert my changes. Ghmyrtle (talk) 17:59, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

You removed large, and referenced chunks, because you obviously did not agree with them. --MacRusgail (talk) 18:02, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Nonsense. Please AGF. I did not delete anything referenced. There are statements like "The Cornish people (Cornish: Kernowyon) are regarded as an ethnic group.." which are unexplained (Who regards them as an "ethnic group"? The Census, or others as well?) and need very careful explanation (Is it just those descended from Brythonic-speaking people, or does it include more recent immigrants to the area who may in some cases self-identify as Cornish?). All definitions of "ethnic groups" are contentious and require proper explanation. The introductory paragraphs in general are unstructured and poorly organised. There needs to be a section on "ethnic identity" which pulls together some of the early paragraphs, and a section on the population of Cornwall (which may, or may not, be identical with the concept of "Cornish people" - the article is wholly unclear). The issue over the Welsh and "West Welsh" being unconnected as a result of the Saxon advances is true only of land links, and anyone with a cursory knowledge of the history of those areas understands that sea links remained important. My edits - admittedly hurried - attempted to redress some of those obvious imperfections in the article, and I will continue to try to make similar improvements to the article along those lines. Ghmyrtle (talk) 18:18, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Nonsense indeed, especially when one deletes the references, and complains that the article is unreferenced.

"All definitions of "ethnic groups" are contentious"

Oh really? I didn't know that... A significant number of people do consider the Cornish a separate group from the English, although, like Shetlanders and Channel Islanders, they have fallen between two stools.--MacRusgail (talk) 18:24, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Please calm down. If I did inadvertently delete any references I certainly didn't mean to, though I did move some so I suppose it's possible they could have got lost - if so I apologise. "A significant number of people do consider the Cornish a separate group from the English.." - quite, a significant number do, and by the same token a significant number don't, and hence it is contentious and requires explanation. Yes, all ethnic group definitions (at least of groups that are not physically isolated) are indeed contentious, because they vary depending on which criteria are used - language, genetics, sense of identity, etc. etc. - which give varying results and, again, require explanation. Ghmyrtle (talk) 18:45, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

PS - correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think this edit does show any references deleted. Though I did delete this sentence - "The number of people living in Cornwall who consider themselves to be more Cornish than British or English is unknown." - because it ws contradicted by the sentence immediately following. Ghmyrtle (talk) 18:58, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] The WikiProject Novels Newsletter - March 2009

The WikiProject Novels Newsletter Issue 29 - March 2009
Archives  |  Tip Line  |  Editors Novels portal The Novels WikiProject Newsletter Issue 28 - November 2008 From the Coordinators As you can see, this is about as bare-bones of a newsletter as you can get. The reason for this is that the newsletter has and will be inactive, but we wanted to get a last one out detailing the current state of our project. The truth is that WP:NOVELS is in bad shape. Only a few editors are active in editing inside of our project. Our Peer Review section, this newsletter, our task forces, and our collaboration center are all dead; although a collab is picked each month, not a lot of work seems to occur. Out of these ashes, we are proposing that the project start an A-class review system. This will hopefully bring people together for reviewing, and will perhaps get the project some sorely-needed attention from others who can come in and help rehabilitate it. Final plans have not been established, but we will see about getting a mass message out to all of the project members if/when it is set up; discussion of this can be conducted on the General Forum. This newsletter will probably be the last we will have for a long time, as neither Ed nor Kevinalewis have the time to create these every month. However, if any editor is willing to step up and create one, we would be glad to assist you in making it up. If you don't want to create a newsletter, but would still like to help, there are plenty of things that can be done. As detailed on the right, the Novels Peer Review section has four articles needing attention, but only one review has been done; one from May, one from November, and one from December have not had any comments left on them. Please consider helping out there; even a 15-minute review would help. Your coords, –Kevinalewis (talk · contribs) and the_ed17 (talk · contribs) Member news Talk between Kevinalewis and the_ed17, the two project coordinators, has led to us deciding to suspend elections for coordinators indefinitely. With the exceedingly low amount of participation in the last elections (five total votes), we do not feel that it is worth it to try to set up another election. 20 positions remain unfilled at the Job Centre. Members who are active project contributors are encouraged to apply even if they can only do a position for a short time. Collaboration of the Month This month's Collaboration has been selected by popular vote and is : Shantaram (novel). The next collaboration is due for selection in April, so cast your vote. Peer review and assessment news Peer Reviews are still open for four articles – Sector General, Petals of Blood, Scenes of Clerical Life, and Flowers for Algernon. Feel free to submit any novel-related article that you are working on for review, but please consider stopping by and reviewing an article; we need more reviewers for our articles (there is a PR that has been open since May)! – the_ed17 (talk) Announcements and open tasks WikiProject Novels • (inc. novellas, novelettes & short stories) Announcements and open tasks (watch • edit • discuss • changes) → Please help with tagging articles! Critique (Featured article): 21 achieved Novels WikiProject Peer reviews: • Sector General • Petals of Blood • Flowers for Algernon Improve: The Age of Reason • Furies of Calderon • Wolf Brother • The Monk • The English Patient • Bones of the Moon Create: Oberon Past and Present • To the Vanishing Point • Spoilt City ... Our Collaboration Department is continuing with one more title for the current month: 'The Tin Drum'. Get collaborating on the article and also look at nominating other titles to be considered. Recently a new worklist had been created and quietly arrived, the Cleanup listing which gives a fairly comprehensive hit list of "novels" related articles that have been tagged for something or other. Since then a new Article alerts listing has also been added of more topic and "urgent" items worthy of our attention.

This has been an automated delivery by BrownBot (talk) 17:06, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] West and East Germany

Rather then me trying to go into lengthy explanations, try Germany national football team and Talk:Germany national football team/Archive 1#German FA legal successor to West Germany for some information. Whats said there pretty much applies to all German sports teams. However, I do agree that the history of East German rugby union should be included in Wikipedia, if you got any good sources, can you pass them on? I will see, what I can make of it and hopefully produce a List of East Germany national rugby union team results‎. Have fun, EA210269 (talk) 02:15, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Obama's Mom's partial Scots roots

I think Falmouth Kearney and Pres. Obama's mother Irish heritage gets more play for a lot of reasons, there's a lot of Irish-Americans, Falmouth Kearney is a more recent ancestor and the most recent of his mother's ancestor to be native European, etc...

Although exactly where in Scotland they were from is still unknown, at least 3 branch of Pres. Obama's mother's family tree were Scottish: Armours, McCurrys and Wilburns. Also, Obama's mother might also be a descendant of the Chenoweth and Teague families, which are both of Cornish extration. Cladeal832 (talk) 15:44, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Found some more about Pres. Obama's Argyll roots. Pres. Obama's grandmother, Madelyn Dunham, was the daughter of Leona McCurry. She was direct-line descendant of Laughlin McCurry, who was born in Scotland and immigrated to the American Colonies.

Archibald McCurry married Anne McLaughlin ---> Laughlin McCurry married Lydia Williams ---> Edward McCurry married Christine Wilson ---> Harbin Wilburn McCurry married Elizabeth Edna Creekmore ---> Thomas Creekmore McCurry married (2) Margaret Belle Wright ---> Leona Belle McCurry married Rolla Charles Payne ---> Madelyn Lee Payne married Stanley Armour Dunham ---> Stanley Ann Dunham married (1) Barack Hussein Obama ---> Barack Hussein Obama, Jr.

SOURCE: http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/m/a/r/Robert-L-Mardock/GENE12-0008.html

Cladeal832 (talk) 22:19, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Turkey national rugby union team

can you edit this article completely, please? my english isn't so got and that's better if you should done this.

but: you have edit this ( ) sorry but that is wrong! turkey is geographical in asia but in sports in europe! :D

nice days

(SALGINHO (talk) 04:51, 11 April 2009 (UTC))

[edit] British political parties

I have made suggestions for inclusion criteria for Template:British political parties on the talk page, and I am about to open an RfC. Comments welcome. Fences and windows (talk) 00:00, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Graeme Davis (mediaevalist)

Hi MacRusgail, Just wondered if you were aware that the article Graeme Davis (mediaevalist) was created by Graeme Davis (mediaevalist). This doesn't seem right. Do you think anything should be done about it? And if so, what? You have a great deal more experience on Wikipedia than me. Please tell me if you think it is all above board, if you don't want to get involved, or if I should just ask someone else (although I would be grateful to hear any suggestion as to whom). Cheers, Daicaregos (talk) 13:15, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Davis even claims herethat he wrote his own article so that potential employers would not mistake him for another Graeme Davies on Wikipedia. I wonder how many potential employers would be impressed by someone who created their own entry? Talskiddy (talk) 20:38, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Articles for deletion nomination of Texe Marrs

I have nominated Texe Marrs, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Texe Marrs. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.
Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Rami R 06:53, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

If you would like assistance with the Marr's article, I am willing to help. Basileias (talk) 06:11, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Eilean a' Chaolais

I agree that English names often use the plural but in this case we're dealing with the translation of a Gaelic placename and the Gaelic is without question just referring to a single one. Akerbeltz (talk) 17:58, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Rugby union in Tunisia

Re: wanting references, how am I meant to reference something that I have removed from an article for being outdated? The current reference, which states that Tunisia has half the registered players Morocco does, is from 1997, and given that it is from an encyclopedic book was almost certainly compiled based on even older information. Today the situation is reversed, Tunisia has more than twice as many registered players as Morocco. How would you like me to reference this when the relevant paragraph was simply removed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.255.0.161 (talk) 06:45, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Sport

Why did you delete my piece on Sport in the Modern Celts article? Ausseagull (talk) 15:58, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Because we're trying to make it less UK-centric, not more so. That means we have to deal with Breton sport - e.g. footballers like Le Guen, and things that slip underneath the English radar such as Gaelic games...--MacRusgail (talk) 10:48, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Well put some other bits in then. Incidentally, what Gaelic games are played between "Celtic Nations"? Ausseagull (talk) 15:20, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

You're on wikipedia. Look it up. And don't add anything unless you know what you're talking about, or giving a balanced viewpoint.--MacRusgail (talk) 17:38, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Coordinator Election

Hello. The Coordiantor Election has begun. All members are encouraged to vote by the deadline, July 28. To vote simply add support to the comments and questions for.. section of the member of your choice.

3 users are standing:

• Alan16 (talk · contribs)
• Kevinalewis (talk · contribs)
• Pmlinediter (talk · contribs)

Regards, Alan16 (talk) 19:45, 29 June 2009 (UTC).